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General, or commander, and you look at not just the weapons supplies, but the intelligence shared, do you look at that as an act of war? >> well, the russians have already said that they consider that the u.s. is fighting a proxy war against russia. the u.s. providing intelligence is nothing new. providing the weapons just like other nato nations have been very, very helpful. but the russians -- the way they have operated where their operational security and the military would call that opsec ha...

Intelligence sharing sort of a part of that aid? maybe not as public, maybe not advertised as openly, but isnt that part of what the united states would be doing for ukraine? >> yes, willie. three dimensions. one is the equipment. the second is the training. increasingly, the united states and western allies are training ukrainians outside of ukraine. thats enormously significant. and the third pillar of this indirect warfare you referenced and ambassador taylor referenced is the intelligence sh...

World war iii, threatening the use of nuclear weapons. but much has changed over the past eight, nine weeks. you have the secretary of defense going to europe, declaring it is not enough for ukraine to survive. he wants to bleed out the russians. he wants to weaken their military so they can never do this again. nancy pelosi this past weekend went to ukraine and poland, said the same thing. now, were getting this intel that the u.s. seems to be all in as it pertains to intel. making a huge diffe...

If, however, he decides that thats as good as it is going to get, then he will look for a way to put a bow on it, as you said, even though he has not achieved what he is after. hes always wanted to dominate ukraine. hes failed at that. the ukrainians have been valiant and heroic in pushing him back. he cannot win this war, joe. ukrainians will win. thats what he is going to have to face on may 9th. >> so, jeremy, i reported a few weeks ago that u.s. officials have been watching this may 9th date...

Victory. only problem on the way to that parade stand is the fact that putin cant win a battle. he cant win anything. the russians just keep getting knocked back on their ass in every phase of this war. so the question is, how does he -- how does he claim victory on may the 9th? what does he do? >> joe, its a great question. its a great question. this demonstrates, joe, what you just said, that is, he now will have to realize that hes not been able to succeed on the battlefield. hes been defeate...

Direction of some in the republican party, the maga direction of some in the republican party. hes been struck by the hold his predecessor seems to have on far too many members. not all but far too many members of the party. what were seeing, the latest antics, make clear they are at war with mickey mouse. theyre against allowing women to make choices about their own health care. against lowering the cost of prescription drugs. if that remains the platform, the presidents view is that is out of ...

Of the war. i would suggest that the united states was probably very instrumental within hours after the russians invaded ukraine this time, to completely am you amputate the russian command and control. that left them directionless in the field. large numbers of them directionless. so what happened then, they had to go to cell phones to communicate with each other. you have a commander in the east of the ukraine trying to connect with people who are outside with russian troops outside of kyiv, ...

Reports last week noted that the Czech Republic sent about a dozen tanks along with armored fighting vehicles and some artillery pieces to Ukraine in its fight against Russia, as some suggested [...]

Belarusians. will the russians support this war? well see. >> what should natos response be if its a full declaration of war? >> the nato response should be continue to do what were now doing in larger volume. we need to recognize what this means for ukraine. were there with the ukrainians. we want the ukrainians to win. in order to have them win, they need the support, the weapons, the artillery. >> as a former diplomat, the issue of proxy work, theres a debate. theres some that want to vigorou...

Should support the ukrainians with everything weve got. >> its not more important to us than ukraine, though. is that the difference between a proxy war and not a proxy war? >> ukraine is important. its more important to them, by the way, than it is for russia. lets be clear. but also for us, this is democracy and autocracy. >> good to see you, sir. i cant believe thats our last story of today. thank you all for being with us this hour. msnbcs coverage will continue with katie tur after the brea...