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User name and password combinations have been leaked in russian and i.d. theft and organized crime hacking forums. so this is readily available not just at the nation state level, this is bleeding down into the organized crime, the criminal level. i mean if shes not worried about it now, she absolutely should be. >> is there one thing that could happen that could come out of todays meeting that you would say, hey, that lets me know theyre taking it very seriously. >> yeah. i think what weve done...

Here at aspen yesterday and he said that he felt he had a public duty to be up front with the american people and traitor about wha -- transparent to the american people. americans know. they can be educated and armed in order to understand what information is really credible. >> public attribution foreign influence campaigns to help encounter and mitigate a harm caused by foreign sponsored misinformation. when people are aware of the true sponsor they can make better informed decisions. >> the ...

Credible. >> public attribution, foreign influence campaigns can help mitigate the harm caused by foreign sponsor misinformation. when team are aware of the sponsor, they can make better decisions. >> the newly-released justice department report lays out the key elements of the foreign systems that are targeting the u.s. they include attacking voting infrastructure so voting machines and the software associated with voting, also helping politicians damage their opponents think of hacking the dnc...

Awful lot of issues to work through and the secretary says he hopes it happens this fall. bret? >> bret: rich edson live outside the united nations. rich, thanks. the top law enforcement official overseeing the probe of russian election meddling is defending the indictment of foreign agents who may never see the inside of a u.s. courtroom. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has the latest tonight from the as spin security forum in colorado. good evening, catherine. >> well, than...

If we didnt have the supporting intelligence that gave us great confidence in that attribution. it would not surprise me at all if there were other people outside of north korea involved in this. there are a lot of hackers for hire in a lot of countries. so if there was somebody from singapore or russia or any of those other places mentioned, that wouldnt surprise me. but the core attribution in north korea in my opinion is probably pretty solid. >> more on point that you made when you were doin...

Malware can be so destructive that the data is not recoverable and its too costly of a process to retrieve. lion share of the evidence does point to north koreas dictator and his proxies. it creates, in effect, a thin veneer of mrauzable deniability. and wheel officials are privately blaming north korea, this statement is thin on detail with no public attribution. the u.s. is entering a new phase of warfare. >> we have got to develop behaviors in this space. absent that kind of thing, being tota...