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Democrats privately who believe the president needs to make republicans believe that if the deal isnt a good one that the fiscal -- going over the fiscal cliff is a viable option. do you believe its a viable option? >> well, i know, as we all know, that our country has a real challenge with our debt and deficit and i would argue with our investment in people so that we can be vibrant once again in order to meet that challenge we have to have a balanced and fair approach that talks about spending...