about the president s counsel, the vice president s counsel. they all told him it was un-american. in the words of a prosecutor, illegal. even the nation s top prosecutor, the attorney general bill barr, found no evidence to support a play to stay in office. and tonight we have not one but two former attorneys general here both nominated by republican president. and both are going to give us their take on whether the emperor s wardrobe might be traded for prison garb. the former attorney general merrick garland says he is watching closely. but i wonder what his predecessors would think and what they would do. day three has had a theme, pressure, persistent, unyielding pressure, all targeting vice president mike pence. the browbeating all began behind the scenes. but when that didn t work, the bully pulpit was the new soap box. and pence s failure to succumb to it put him in danger. the vp s chief of staff was so worried the president was putting his life at risk, that he aler
possibly a crime. they knew, and according to a testimony today, they do it anyway. and the testament knew that. he also in new in realtime that the actions that he was taking, or about to take with his 2:24 pm tweet the he had been told exactly how that it was at the capitol. although the presidents chief of staff, mark meadows, is refusing to testify before the committee. mr. meadows aid, ben williamson, and white house press secretary, sarah matthews, testified that mr. meadows went to the dining room near the oval office to tell the president about the violence of the capitol before the president s 2:24 pm tweet. it was clear that it was escalating, and escalating quickly. [noise] so then, when that we, than mike pence s tweet was sent out. i remember saying that that was the last thing that needs to be tweeted at that moment. pete aguilar says the committee s investigation shows that immediately after that tweet, the crowd in the capitol search. two minutes lat
illusions. i do not have the power to throughout the election results, nor does any individual american as our forefathers said. and we look forward to seeing you tomorrow, and america forever. but i m not gonna do that. i mean, the chief of staff, calls up the trump guy and complains about it. but why don t you just put out the vice presidential statement immediately? yes, a very good point. and they re not showing us every single thing they ve obtained and every question and answer with everyone. and maybe, the congressman schiff could tell us that they did have some exchanges about why did the vice president didn t make a statement that they. they might have that in their. we ll see what congressman schiff have to say. go for it, lawrence. thank you rachel. he did his duty. that s what liz cheney said today about mike pence, at the beginning of the january six committee hearing. he stayed true to his oath. that s what democratic congressman pete aguilar said
the plan was illegal, or said in in front and trump did not care it was illegal. i think that was one of the biggest take-aways that eastman himself knew it was illegal and put it in an email, i want you to do a minor constitutional violation. chuck, back to you, we will build our way back to donald trump if we, can and specifically about his lawyer, that lawyer, john eastman, we even saw the email that he wrote to golden globe, saying, you know, having to rudy giuliani, saying you know, having thought about it, i think i do need a pardon here that understands his mind set and understanding he had done something criminal, why else would you need a pardon, what are the legal implications to face him? good questions, peter. first on the pardon, i m not a poker player but i m told people who play poker look for tells if they have a good land or a bad hand and a tell, consciousness of guilt, as you articulated would be asking for a pardon, would be asking for a pardo
president trump, partly out of concern it would give the appearance of pressure on the attorney general. politico argues that the first three hearings essentially did that for them, laying out stark evidence that trump and his allying now the election was not rig, but they pushed the big lie anyway. there s new evidence that the department of justice may be growing frustrated against the committee as well. we learned of a strongly worded letter by the doj, in which the department accuses committee members of complicating investigations by withholding transcripts of witness interviews, it says, quote, are not just potentially relevant to the overall communications, but likely relevant to specific prosecutions that have already commenced. however, committee chairman bennie thompson made it clear he is not rushing to help out. we ve interviewed over 1,000 witnesses, that would mean we have to stop what we re doing to then work with the department of justice. we will eventually