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We have to hear from director comey. also, if the white house has been saying all day that this never happened, then i think they should come forth with whatever evidence that they have. whether it is tapes or notes made by someone at the white house to contradict this. because as i say, jim comey has a pretty serious credibility with everybody who i know thats ever worked with him. >> president bill clinton, as you know, impeached in the house of representatives but not convicted, acquitted whe...

Remember. i want to get your per speckive, john. what does this story look like, these latest developments? >> it looks like its bad for mr. -- president trump. looks like hes got some problems. >> if there are tapes, should they release them to corroborate the presidents side of the story? >> well, they certainly can do that. i dont know if hes ready to disclose whether or not he has, in fact, a taping capability. i dont think he has a room wide one. he might have a smart phone on his desk that...

Know is what happened. what was said. and whats the evidence of what was said. so far apparently and i say apparently because i havent scent memo or had jim comey authenticate it, but apparently according to jim comey, we understand what was in contact and conversation. the white house said it didnt happen. and i think they need to come forth with whatever evidence they have. if it is tapes, nows the time. if it is contemporaneous notes, if the president wrote a memo about what was said in that ...

Tapes and presumably if they are, that they would be made available to you? >> i dont know whether they are tapes or not p. but if they, and the president tang dangled them out there as if there might be, we should have those. even if those recordings were done on an iphone, that we are are -- first of all, they have to be preserved and then we should be able to get our hoonds on them opinion and attorney general sessions, as you well know, just talked about being hard on crime and make sure tha...

Bomb shell newspaper story by michael schmidt which suggests that donald trump said to jim comey, let it go, end the investigation. now the congress and fbi have to do real investigation of what happens. certainly you would start with any sort of paper trail. now comey took notes. did he take hand-written notes and turn them into a more formal record? fbi agent often do that. that becomes an issue in some investigations. hand-written versus typed up document. typed up document is known as 302. o...

Weve got two stories here. both of which involve something that happened in the oval office. and we have to verify what was actually said. the president made this little bit surprising mention of the tapes. if there are tapes, we need to have them. we need to understand what was said. this is a very serious matter, in indeed it isser verified wh president said in the middle of an investigation. >> you here jeff toobin say, if this is true, if the president asked the fbi to end the investigation ...

Thats our first duty. >> traditionally fbi agents contemporaneous notes are credible. they are held up in court as credible evidence. if in fact the fbi director james comey con testimowrote me about the president, you agree they could be seen as credible evidence as if comes down to court procedure. >> no doubt about it. but even more than that, you have to keep in mind unfortunately and sadly, our president has not always been honest with us. on the other hand, i think comey has been a pretty ...

Have. we cant recreate what fbi can do. nor should we try. we have to run our own investigations. but we do have to make sure that fbi does its work in a thorough way and in a partial way and without any impediment whatsoever. [ inaudible ] >> i think we ought to ask the director to come in to testify. i think that the first step we ought to ask, if there are are notes. notes that are taken around the time of the conversation would be i think very powerful evidence of what took place during thos...

Controversies weve been covering in depth in recent weeks, i sawill say this, a powerful voice on the russian investigation, his first comment on this, was that the burden is on the new york times to produce these memos by james comey if they exist. but ive reached out to a staff and he said that they are not ruling out subpoenaing these documents. his partner on the committee, democratic member on the committee senator mark warner is a resounding yes to that question. and to subpoena these memo...

Important to establish. we are in the beginning stage in this process. first we learned of this conversation. and fbi, white house says there was no attempt to shut down. if there was no attempt to shut it down, there was no crime, no impeachable offense, end up story. but you have to look at all the circumstances. obviously the first circumstances, are there notes and are there tapes? and thats what congress has got to determine very quickly. >> thats critically important right now. stand by. w...