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Theyre cooperating with law enforcement? and so for cohen, a lot of that is collaboration -- corroboration. there has to be evidence that corroborates him every step of the way. its hard to just take him on faith. its i think very odd that hes stepped into these muddy waters. seems to have done it deliberately, talking about whether or not there were hards pardons and opened with credibility. and just have to be cautious and cant take him at face value. >> is it once a liar, always a liar situat...

Deliberately, talking about whether or not there were hards and oth pardons and opened with credibility. and just have to be cautious and cant take him at face value. >> is it once a liar, always a liar situation, frank? >> its not if you can independently krieb rate statements and put them in proper context and get other people to support the statement. but whos telling the truth about who approached who first about the pardon, in my book it doesnt matter about the first approach, what matter i...