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presenti prerogative. calling for genocide of all jews is celebrating this decision. and celebrating it because it distances the chances of peace. >> reporter: we pitch pushed is on this decision that the u.s. was behind it from the beginning. they have not put any evidence forward. in fact, saying in an odd twist, they will provide it to the next administration after this is out of office. mean while, obama's administration going on television to defend their decision. >> by definition, this is not an ambush when president obama and secretary kerry have been saying in hundreds of conversations and public comments that israeli settlement activity was pushing into the west bank in a way that was making the two-state solution unachievable. >> netanyahu has made it clear he is not backing down. last night, he called his because i'm con iffdent if i --f i had run again and articulated it, i think i could have mobile ey a majority of the american people. >> trump said he should say that but i say no way. jobs leaving, isis, obamacare, et cetera. trump taking aim at the u.n. at the anti-israel resolution. saying this, the u.n. has great potential, but it is just a club for people to get together and talk and have a good time. so sad. there is more. trump taking credit for the busy holiday shopping season. the world was a gloomy place before i won. there was no hope. now the market is up nearly 10% and christmas spending is over $1 trillion. no sourcing on that $1 trillion number. the national retail federation and as president obama and japanese's prime minister shinzo abe visit pearl harbor and the "uss arizona" together. president obama arriving in hawaii monday for other ceremonial events. among them, a visit to the cemetery where he laid wreaths to remember those killed in the pearl harbor attack. today, he will mark the first formal trip by a japanese leader to the site of the japanese air attack that killed more than 2,400 americans and drew the u.s. into world war ii 75 years ago. we get more from athena jones in honolulu. >> reporter: this visit by prime minister abe coming seven months after president obama made historic trip to hiroshima. he became the first sitting u.s. president to pay respects to the tens of thousands of people who lost their lives there. now prime minister abe will do the same at pearl harbor. the white house says these two visits which are serving as book ends to one another highlight the power of reconciliation. the ability for former adversaries to become the closest of allies. president obama made the point at hiroshima that 75 years ago in the immediate aftermath of pearl harbor,lliance could never have been imagined. we expect the leaders to have a formal sit down. the white house calls a bilateral meeting. they will visit the "uss arizona" to visit and pay respects to those 900 soldiers who remain entombed in the watery grave. we will hear from president obama and prime minister abe. we expect prime minister abe's remarks to echo the message that president obama delivered in hiroshima. before coming here, prime minister abe said this visit will be a visit to soothe the souls of the victims. we should never repeat the ravages of war. that is one of the themes we expect the prime minister to touch on in his remarks here. there are certainly people here in hawaii looking forward to the visit by prime minister abe. i spoke to a 95-year-old witness to the pearl harbor attacks. he said it is a healing between the two countries. back to you. athena jones in honolulu. that's a pretty good trip to do. never got to do that. the weather looks great. christmas is over. the christmas spirit vanishing quickly in malls across america. violent fights and chaos breaking out in nearly a dozen cities. more coming up next. money. inauguration just a few weeks away, but the cabinet confirmation process has a long and monumental journey ahead. the nominees include five billionaires and six mul multimillionaires. according to the wall street journal. bernie sanders spoke out on twitter yesterday. saying donald trump, the anti-establish republican is building a cabinet worth at least $13 billion. the hypocrisy astounds me. all this could be a slow process. to get through the lengthy application process, nominees have to list all of the organizations they have been affiliated with since they have been 18 years old. name the clients who could pose a conflict of interest and all real estate holdings as well. it is unlikely the process could change the outcome of the nominations, it could take a lot of time and that could slow trump's agenda in the end. >> that is the intangible of all of it. you have 100 days for the first president to make his initial mark and if his process of nominees get slowed down dramatically, it slows down the process and takes away from him trying to push the agenda. >> trump has made promises he would do certain things on day one. i think reality is setting in, maybe that will not be possible. >> speaking of reality, we have reality to tell you about on the day after christmas. violence erupting at several malls across the nation. just one day after christmas. take a look at this video out of manchester, connecticut. you can hear people screaming. punches thrown in the shops at buckland hills. a large chase ensues. our affiliate in harthand says one was assaulted. a mall in texas on lockdown after the fight involving 100 middle school and high school students. >> where are their parents? >> exactly. maybe they should be in school. officers had to go store to store to let people out once the lockdown was lifted. look at aurora, illinois. this is the start of what evolved into a massive fight at fox valley ball. teenagers sprint down the stairs after this fight breaks out. the mall was forced to close for the day. >> you know what it is? all of the kids are off school and nothing to do. you are looking at beechwood place mall in ohio. the mall on lockdown after unfounded reports of an active shooter. this started after a fight broke out among teenagers in the food court. and panic in chattanooga, tennessee. shoppers mistook the fireworks for gunshots. the aurora town mall in colorado evacuating after fights in the mall involving at least 500 people. it started with a social media post prophet muhammmising a fig. and in north carolina, people forced to evacuate after a fight in the food court. a report of a suspected gunman turned out to be false. homework is the solution. bloody holiday weekend in chicago. at least a dozen people shot dead. authorities say it appears the majority of the shootings were targeted attacks by gang members against potential rivals who were at holiday gatherings. the police chief saying it is time to lay down the law. >> i just don't believe that we hold repeat gun offenders accountable for their anxiousct. we don't. the justice system in cook county is a joke. until we change the narrative of individuals to make them not want to pick up a gun, we will continue to see this cycle. >> chicago police say there were at least 27 shooting incidents all over the christmas weekend. authorities in tennessee looking for the last remaining prisoners following the christmas day escape from the county jail. suspect david frazier along with five other inmates fled from the facility through a hole they discovered in the wall which led them outside. apparently the hole was behind a toilet. the men managed to move the toilet back to cover the hole and conceal their escape. the other five are now back in custody. when you have a lot of time on your hands, you find the hole behind the toilet. the world is paying tribute to george michael. remembrances pouring in from around the world. we are live in london coming up next. london, people are coming. the weather and temperatures bitterly cold overnight. through the night and morning, people are still leaving flowers and candles and messages expressing shock and grief and very much love and affection for the pop superstar. we heard tributes from fans and colleag colleagues. what we have heard are words of grief from those who knew george michael best of all. including the man who was with him on the day he died. his partner has posted this in a tweet overnight. he says it is a christmas i will never forget. finding your partner dead peacefully in bed first things in the morning. i will never stop missing you. they had been together for a number of years. prior to that, george michael was in a relationship for 13 years with american kenny goss. he spoke over his heartbreak of losing a dear friend. he says this, he says, he was a major part of my life and i loved him very much. he was an extremely kind and generous man. the memories and music he brought to the world will always be an important part of my life and those who also loved and admired him. now what people are still waiting for here are official answers on the cause of death at such a young age. that is expected to come with the results of the post mortem examination. >> thank you for your report, phil black. this morning, russia's defense ministry says divers found the black box data recorder from the russian military jet that crashed into the black sea on sunday. the plane's cockpit voice recorder is still missing. strong currents and deep water have complicated the search. authorities say large pieces of the wreckage have been found in the water. the plane was carrying 92 people when it went down sunday en route from sochi to western syria. the passengers included more than 60 members of the red army choir. india announcing the latest test of the nuclear ability missile. officials say it is the fourth successful test firing of the missile. india's prime minister tweeting the test makes every indian proud saying it will add strength. in australia, seven people reported missing after heavy rain and flooding in the northern territories. in the meantime, the record-breaking rainfall triggered flash floods and created breath taking images of water running off the iconic sandstone rock formations. >> beautiful, but scary. as for the weather back home, cooler temperatures moving in. meteorologist karen maginnis has the forecast. good morning, karen. >> joe and alison, it may not have been the heat wave we looked at on christmas day, but monday, the big shopping day, people heading back to work we saw a dozen states with record high temperatures. shreveport, louisiana, 83 degrees. and houston, 84. tupelo, 89. all of the records even into ohio. columbus, ohio. a number of cities reported record-high temperatures. wait. frontal system will sweep through and as it does temperatures drop a bit. nashville from 74 degrees on monday as we go into today with the temperatures only up to around 51 degree. the frontal system heads to the east. colder air behind it. a bit of rainfall for new york, but later on in the week, there could be another system in new england. could produce a bit of snow in new york and boston by thursday. back to you. karen, thanks very much. >> the warmer temperatures don't last here in the east. not for long. in other news, secretary of state john kerry getting ready to layout a plan for peace in the middle east. is it mysewise to float a plan before leaving office and after the u.s. refused to protect israel at the u.n.? that's coming up next. we live in a pick and choose world. choose. choose. choose. but at bedtime... ...why settle for this? enter sleep number and the lowest prices of the season. sleepiq technology tells you how well you slept and what adjustments you can make. she likes the bed soft. he's more hardcore. so your sleep goes from good to great to wow! only at a sleep number store, right now, save $600 on our best selling i8 mattress, plus 24 month special financing. learn more at sleepnumber.com know better sleep with sleep number. the frustration is starting to grow following the ant anti-israel resolution at the u.n. the obama administration is ignoring accusations it is behind the move. now set to reveal the road map to achieve peace as israelis put working ties on the countries voted in favor of the measure. donald trump out of the public eye, but by no means silent. unleashing a tirade with the media and u.n. and president obama. he is doing it on twitter. and a historic moment in hawaii today. a visit by japan's prime minister to the site of the attack on pearl harbor more than 75 years ago. we will have a preview from h honolu honolulu. good morning. welcome back to "early start." i'm joe johns. >> i'm alison kosik. it is tuesday, december 27th. 30 minutes past the hour. john and christine are off. despite the administration having less than a month to go on the job, secretary of state john kerry is expected to deliver a speech later this week outlining the obama administration's vision for peace in the middle east. this comes as relations with the u.s. and israel appear more strained than ever. with israeli officials claiming there is proof the obama administration pushed for the u.n. resolution condemning settlements. in the meantime, prime minister benjamin netanyahu ordering a limit on all working ties with the 12 nations which backed the u.n. vote. oren liebermann is live for news jerusalem. oren, it looks like netanyahu is escalating this controversy by limiting these working ties with the countries that voted for the resolution. >> reporter: he hasn't backed down at all. under terms of what he said lashing out at the u.s. and showing angry remarks at countries that voted for it. he act the diplomatically. summoning the ambassadors of the countries that voted for it on christmas day and wrapping up the visits of the countries that voted for it. as for how his response is being taken, he says he is not concerned about that. he says his response is quote responsible and vigorous and stood by it at every point. what is the next step? it could be secretary of state john kerry's vision for peace. he would lay that out in a speech with his view of the conflict. netanyahu's team not backing down in the last weeks of the obama administration. they accuse obama and his administration of being behind this u.n. resolution. drafting it, writing it and pushing it. here is the netanyahu spokesperson david keyes. >> we have ironclad information from sources in the arab world and internationally. we will share that information with the incoming administration through the proper channels. if the new administration chooses to share that information, that's their prerogative. it should give us pause that a terrorist organization like hamas which is calling for genocide of all jews is celebrating this decision. celebrating it because it distances the chances of peace. >> reporter: as for what that evidence is, this information, evidence they have of the obama administration is behind this u.n. security council resolution, they have not put that evidence or information forward. we pushed israeli officials here in israel and jerusalem and officials in the u.s. so far all they say is they will present it to the next administration. obama's team has taken to the air in the u.s. and here to defend their decision to abstain. here is what ben rhodes had to say. >> it is not an ambush when obama and kerry have been saying if hundr in hundreds of conversations israeli settlement was pushing into the west bank that was making the two-state solution unachievable. >> reporter: we knew the relationship was strained. now we are seeing how quickly it is falling apart. netanyahu is clearly making it known he is thrilled to work with incoming trump administration. >> should israel be concerned about other moves that the united nations could take in the next few weeks? >> reporter: alison, you are right. this resolution is essentially a recommendation or guideline. it has no teeth. there are no punishments in here. israel's concern is the follow-up on parameters. setting conditions for negotiations with israelis and palestinians. that would address the sensitive issues. that's what israel is concerned about. they know that could come in the next few weeks. it seems unlikely the obama administration would want to do that after what they had to go through with this one. israel knows the possibility is still out there. it is something they are trying to avert. >> originalen, thank you. it is back to work for the trump transition team today. 24 days before he takes the oath of office. spending the holiday at the mar-a-lago resort out of the public eye, but not on twitter. the president telling the podcast he could have beaten trump believing his message of hope could resonate if a third team was allowed. listen. >> i am confident in this vision because i'm confident if i had run again and articulated it, i think i could have mobilized the majority of the american people to rally behind it. >> trump not buying it. tweeting. this president obama said he thinks he would have won against me. he should say that, but i say no way. jobs leaving, isis, obamacare, et cetera. trump taking aim at the israel resolution. saying united nations has great potenti potential, but right now it is a club for people to get together and talk and have a good time. so sad. >> wait, there is more. trump taking credit for the busy holiday shopping season. the world was gloomy before i won. there was no hope. now the market was up 10% and christmas spending is over $1 trillion. so there's no sourcing for that $1 trillion. there was a survey predicting it would be spent. this survey was done in september. i digress. the retail federation close to $655 billion. it is a good year. still not in line with the tweet. trump defending the charity days after announcing plans to dissolve it to avoid impression of conflict of interest. he said this. i gave millions of dollars to djt foundation. raised or received millions more. all of which given to charity and media won't report. djt foundation, unlike most foundations, never paid fees, rent, salaries or expenses. 100% of money goes to wonderful charities. trump hasn't donated to the foundation since 2008 according to the foundation tax reports. then there, non tweeted development. steve miller will write the inauguration speech. we are told this one will address trump's stump and thank you speeches. a day of remembrance and reconciliation and president obama and japan's prime minister shinzo abe visit pearl harbor and the "uss arizona" together. abe arrived in hawaii monday for events. among them, a visit to the cemetery where he laid breawrea to remember those killed in pearl harbor attack. today is the first formal trip by the japanese leader to the site of the japanese air attack that killed more than 2,400 americans and drew the u.s. into world war ii 75 years ago. we get more from athena jones in honolulu. >> reporter: this visit by prime minister abe coming seven months after president obama made a trip to hirmoshima. the first sitting president to pay respects to tens thousands of people who lost their lives. now prime minister abe doing it at pearl harbor. the white house says the visits serve as book ends to one another highlight the power of reconciliation. the former adversaries to become the closest allies. 75 years ago in the aftermath of pearl harbor, the close friendship and alliance with the two countries could never have been imagined. as for what is on the agenda, we expect them to have a formal sit-down. after they, they will visit the "uss arizona" to pay respects to the 900 soldier whos who remain entombed in the watery grave. we will hear from president obama and prime minister abe. we expect prime minister abe's remarks to echo the remarks from hiroshima by president obama. before coming here, prime minister abe said this visit will be a visit to soothe the souls of the victims. we should never repeat the ravages of war. that is what we expect the prime minister to say here. there are people in hawaii looking forward to the visit by prime minister abe. i spoke to a 95-year-old witness to the pearl harbor attacks who said prime minister's visit is the greatest thing in the world and culmination of the healing of the two countries. back to you. >> thank you, athena. a crazy day after christmas or violence breaking out across malls across america. what sparked the chaos that played out in nearly a dozen states. more next. time for an early start on your money. inauguration is coming up in a few weeks. the cabinet confirmation process still a long way to go. so far, the president-elect's nominees include five billionaires, six multimillionaires. according to the wall street journal. that sis a net worth close to $0 billion. bernie sanders tweeting yesterday. saying this, donald trump, the anti-establish republican is building a cabinet worth $13 billion, he is saying. the hypocrisy astounds me. sifting through the holdings could be a slow process for the nominees. they have to pay enormous legal fees and also make sure their books are in order. also on the list of things they need to do, they have to talk about all of the organizations they have been affiliated with since the age of 18. they have to name clients who pose conflicts of interest and all real estate holdings as well. wh while it is unlikely it will change the nominations, it will take time. that could slow trump's agenda. it will take time and money for the nominees who have to shell out money to make sure the ts are crossed and is are dotted. >> this is why public life is hard coming out of business into government. they start getting into your business. there is all this information that maybe you would not like everybody to know about at the end of the day. >> still possible. violence erupting at malls across the nation one day after christmas. look at this video. manchester, connecticut. you hear the people screaming and punches thrown in the shops at buckland hills. our affiliate in hartford says an officer was assaulted. a mall in ft. worth, texas on lockdown following the fight involving 100 middle school and high school students near the food court. officers had to go store to store to let people out once the lockdown was lifted. in aurora, illinois, this evolved into a brawl at fox valley mall. teenagers sprinted down the stairs to get out of the mall. >> take a look at beechwood place mall. the mall in ohio was put on lockdown after reports of an active shooter. all this started after a fight broke out among teenagers in the food court. then panic at hamilton place mall in chattanooga, tennessee. teenagers setoff fireworks. shoppers mistook the sound for gunshots. the aurora town mall in colorado. closed and evacuated after fights broke out in the mall involving 500 people. police say it all started with a social media post promising a fight. and in fayetteville, north carolina, people forced to va evacuate after a fight in the food court. the suspected gunman report touch turned out to be false. where is the holiday spirit? bloody holiday weekend in chicago. a dozen people shot dead. authorities say it appears the majority of the shootings were targeted attacked by gang members over rivals at holiday gatherings. the police chief says it is time to lay down the law. >> i just don't believe that we hold repeat gun offenders accountable for their actions. i don't. they think that justice system in cook county is a joke. until we change the mental narrative of individuals to make them not want to pick up a gun, we will continue to see this cycle. >> chicago police say there were at least 27 shooting incidents all over the christmas weekend. authorities in tennessee are looking for the last remaining prisoner following a brazen christmas day escape from the county jail. david fritz azier along with fi other inmates fled the facility through a hole they discovered in the hole which led them outside. apparently the hole was behind a toilet. the men managed to move the toilet back to cover the hole and conceal their escape. the other five are now back in custody. they have too much time. >> absolutely. >> they caught them. they were not that smart. >> exactly. the dow has been pushing closer to 20,000. could today finally be the day it gets there? we will check on cnn money next. if you have medicare parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? you could apply for a medicare supplement insurance plan whenever you want. no enrollment window. no waiting to apply. that means now may be a great time to shop for an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. medicare doesn't cover everything. and like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, these help cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. so don't wait. call now to request your free decision guide. it could help you find the aarp 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temperatures have dropped below freezing overnight. that hasn't stopped many people from coming here to lay flowers and candles to express shock and grief, but of course, great love and affection. the question is why did he die at such an early age. that hasn't been answered beyond the suspicion of those who knew him who say they suspect it was heart failure. we are waiting for a formal response from authorities. formal reports of the post mortem. people are keen to know what the funeral service will be and perhaps a wider public event. we don't have those details yet. you can be sure it will be an emotional vastly attended event. joe. >> phil black in london. thank you. this morning, russia's defense minuistry says divers found the black box from the jet that crashed into the black sea on sunday. the cockpit recorder is still missing. deep water and currents have complicated the search. the plane was carrying 92 people when it went down sunday. it was en route from sochi to western syria. the passengers included more than 60 members of the russia's famed red army choir. despite growing concern of nuclear proliferation, india announcing the most powerful nuclear capable missile. it is the forurth success frfult of the missile. in australia, seven people reported missing after days of heavy rain and flood in the country's northern territories. meantime, the record-breaking rainfall triggered flash floods in the national park in central australia. creating breathtaking images of water running offer t the iconi sa sandstone. as for the weather here at home, cooler temperatures coming in. meteorologist karen maginnis has the forecast. >> don't put the winter coats away. christmas got off to a very crazy start with the very mild temperatures across the southeast and mid-atlantic and deep south. say good-bye to the fairly mild temperatures. colder air starts to move in behind it. you will definitely need the coats. in the meantime, a lot of people trying to head home from the holidays. shreveport managed to see a record high. 83 degrees. the old record was last year. even all the way into detroit with temperatures in the upper 50s for detroit. day after christmas. not so bad. louisville, kentucky, 56 degrees. a dozen states with record-high temperatures. not so fast. chicago, 55 degrees. that was yesterday. today, 34. still looking pretty good. nashville from the 70s to the 50s. bundle up. we'll see a bit of leftover rainfall in new york city and boston. a dry spell. a cold spell. a clipper system by thursday. sn joe and alison. let's get a start on your money. markets reopening today. the question is does the dow have a chance to hit 20,000 before the year is up? there is not much significance to the 20,000 number other than an impressive way for the stocks to finish the year. we are not holding our breath. the week between christmas and new year is quiet. ta tax planning could make it dichlt sto. stocks in europe and asia are up. and the world's biggest banks agreed to pay $60 billion if fi in fines to the department of justice. the multibillion investments will go toward programs that are designed to help homeowners and borrows. next could be barklclays. and trump's twitter fingers are causing trouble for businesses. after he wanted to break the government contract with boeing, we saw shares dip, but recovered. he said he may tap boeing to replace lockheed martin. tall though trump has been a boo boone for the market at large, the tendency to single out companies have the companies fearing his twitter wrath. the stocks of ten u.s. companies that trump took jabs at during the campaign and after, they actually rose on average 9% in the month after election. >> it really points out how a president's words can move markets. >> and his words matter. "early start" continues right now. >> the diplomatic fallout grows following the anti-israel resolution at the u.n. the jewish state putting limits on working tie was countries that voted in favor. now where the u.s. could be ready to rock the boat more. we have more from jerusalem. donald trump unleashing on twitter. going after the u.n., media and president obama. we'll tell you why. and a historic moment on tap today in hawaii. japanese's prime minister set to visit the site of the attack on pearl harbor.

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than that. kim jong un has departed from his grandfather and his father, who wanted nuclear weapons to preserve the regime. kim jong un has come to a different calculation. therefore, his strategy is different. he believes the only way to preserve the regime -- there's only one country that would change it. the united states. the only way to stop the united states from doing that -- he's paranoid about the united states -- you have to hold the american people at risk. that's why we have this accelerated program of ballistic missile development and intercontinental ballistic missiles that have the capability to deliver nuclear warhead. furthermore, he strategizes this way, once he achieves that capability -- in his mind -- the united states will acquiesce and accept that capability much as the united states accepted the development of nuclear weapons h as the united states 40 years ago except to china developing it's unfortunate this rhetoric is going back -- i think we should stay out of the rhetoric business with north korea and stay measured in terms of what our response is. >> dana: >> dana: greg gutfeld. >> greg: hey, general. i don't know, this is the first time i've ever seen a western leader respond to north korea using their actual language. i wonder if this is another way of president trump negotiating from a very powerful point of view. one that they understand, using words like -- but are easily translatable -- like fire and fury. if they strike first, is completely over for them. if we do nothing, theoretically, nothing happens. am i right? >> that certainly -- that's the equation people want to believe. the problem we have is because of the kind of regime that north korea has, we cannot treat north korea the way we treat other great power competitions. namely the soviet union in the past and now russia and also china, who possess significant amount of nuclear rise icbms. the north korean regime, we don't believe and i don't know anybody that does except people on the far left, that you can use mutually assured destruction as the determinants for north korea ever using those weapons against the united states. we don't believe that. what we want to happen is that they don't get the capability and that's the path we are heading on. the path to them not having this capability, nuclear rise icbms -- it's china. we are on that path but we are not close to getting where we need to be. we are on a collision course with china. you are going to see us get really tough with china because i don't think china will behave necessarily in a way that ambassador haley wants them to behave. i think they are going to come up short and we are going to have to really go after china and their interest with korea but also their interest in the region. we will have to put significant geopolitical and economic pressure on china. >> dana: jesse watters. >> jesse: general, it seems like there are a few options here. united states either accepts a nuclear rise to north korea and is somewhat like the soviet union where you live under that blackmail scenario. or, our defensive capabilities, the subs. that just obliterates them and a huge crisis. or third option, a coup or an assassination attempt. what you think the chances are of a targeted assassination attempt, a decapitation strategy in north korea? >> there is a possibility of that happening. that would be something that was engineered by the chinese. they want to change out the leadership, thinking that the leadership is not responding to them. listen, this is what we've got to recognize. north korea has nuclear weapons because the chinese wanted them to have nuclear weapons. they wanted them to be the dominant power on the peninsula. north korea has intercontinental ballistic missiles that looked remarkably similar to the chinese. portable missiles. i bet anything if we went up and pulled off the label, we would see "made in china" during those parades. yet understand how close these countries are. the intellectual property they are using is chinese. china has their hands all over this thing. at the path through this has got to be through china. there's a possibility, because of the pressure that china will start to put on north korea, if they get resistance, that would lead them to make the regime change. in other words, assassinate them and put somebody else in his plated that is complicit and would respond to their guidance. that's still a reasonable option that could be down the road. >> dana: richard fowler. >> talking about those delivery systems, what options do we have with destroying those delivery systems? our air force to actually destroy so they can use the warheads? >> the best way to deal with the delivery system is to destroy it before it lifts the missile off the launch pad. that way are guaranteed the destruction of that capability. kim jong un is no fool and what he has said to us is if anyone conducts an unprovoked attack, it's a war on the peninsula. i will conduct an immediate invasion of south korea with every rocket and missile i have and also nuclear weapons. that is the threat that he is holding over us to prevent us from exercising that kind of a military action. that's offensive a new terror. the rest of our military action is dealing with a delivered system, defensive. should the system down -- shoot it when it's up in space. using the ground-based midcourse missiles, 44 of them that are in alaska and also in california. that's not an option we want have to use because that's a system that's heading towards some population center in the united states and we are totally dependent on a bullet killing a bullet in thin air. we have capability to do it but we also have missed 50%-60% of the time with the system i am describing right now. >> dana: their moms and dads that are trying to explain this to their kids tonight. kids that did not grow up in cold war. minus a couple here. we were used to this idea that this is new to them and the anxiety is really high, there was a cbs poll tonight that says 72% of americans are actually concerned and starting to get scared. what would you advise them tonight, with talking to their kids and calm the situation down? >> here are some things we should take solace with. president trump, although he is inexperienced with foreign policy and national security, he has great instincts about it and in intuitive sense. i know that from personal conversations. secondly, he has one of the best national security teams wrapped around him that this country has ever had. steady, calm, measured people that have been in and out of crisis all their adult lives. this is good news for us. i believe that we will avoid war with north korea. because we are going to take the action necessary with china to force them into a position that will create change. it's the only option that makes any sense and once china understands that, then we are going to make some real progress with them. i was watching on a previous show on fox, by the way, fox has got this story absolutely 100% correct. by comparison to other channels. i asked one of our senior guys what is the percentage of going to war? 50%-70%. come on, this is a crisis. it's dangerous but we've got study people here who know what they are doing. >> dana: i'm glad i asked the question. another crisis from the trump administration ahead. the opioid epidemic. at the president said we will win the battle to save american lives from addictive drugs. that's next. ♪ liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty did what? 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>> richard: big pharma is a big problem here. a couple things have to happen. we know that prevention is just part of it but you've got a deal with those individuals that are already addicted to opioids. the first thing you've got to do and i am happy the president is dealing with this but the first thing that has to happen is some sort of program, people that are already owns heroin -- a needle exchange. people that are using dirty needles, intravenous drug use, hiv/aids. there should be needle change across the country. dr. adams who is now in the queue to be appointed to surgeon general -- i hope the president will give him the latitude of surgeon general to get the job done. talking about how doctors can be part of the solution by urging patients to bring their prescription drugs back. when you have opioids prescribed to you and you have 20 percocets under your bed, you bring them back to the doctor's office instead of keeping them in her house. the third thing is finding alternatives to opioids. instead of prescribing opioids, maybe we should talk about how we legalize marijuana in the used to treat pain. it's not addictive -- as opioids are. going after big pharma. >> kimberly: you know people are addicted to marijuana. >> richard: is not as addictive as opioids. >> dana: people going after big pharma all the time -- i don't think it's necessary the right one. i understand the state of new hampshire, they are the ones that created the oxycontin but doctors -- they swear an oath. >> richard: doctors are part of the problem. >> dana: i'm disagreeing with you. obviously there are some bad doctors but attorney general jeff sessions just did that whole prosecution against not only doctors but some insurance companies they were sulking money from the federal government. but you can go after big pharma but then you are not going to get the alternative. this afternoon on social report, this program is using different types of medicines like lidocaine patches that would go directly on broken ribs instead of providing opioids. if you just want to target big pharma, you will get all tied up. you will be able to treat any actual people. >> richard: i hear that, dana. the point i am making is that when i had four wisdom teeth removed, they gave me 45 percocets. you don't need 45 percocets. >> kimberly: where are they now? >> richard: i got rid of them. i don't need 45 percocets. >> dana: doctors are taught to treat people's pain. what are you going to do? i understand there's a briefing, calling for a national state of emergency? what is that turn into? governor huckabee said actually, let the states decide. sometimes the best solution is actually in and initiative. go back to those places. i think that be a good thing. >> jesse: i'm going to play greg gutfeld. what you do about the opioid crisis? >> greg: we have to address the fact that everything we have said has been said about every drug since the invention of drugs. the fact is, people up or use this drug because the drug is effective. people don't sit around and do flintstone vitamins all day. they do this because it feels good and life is hard. life is painful. people have a right to their oblivion. people have a right to relieve pain. the one thing we don't talk about -- we are forgetting that there are people who need these drugs. people are in pain. millions of people are in pain. i don't know how many, 20,000 people die every year. 88,000 people die from alcohol abuse and we don't do that story. we do this story because the flavor of the month. there are people that are definitely in trouble and that need help. the fact is, it's because this thing is so powerful and so effective that it makes you question your survival mechanism. it affects your breathing, you don't wake up. it's so good that you just keep doing it. you have to figure out how to manage this. expecting somebody to turn their drugs and when they are that good -- forget about it. i wouldn't. >> dana: >> kimberly: friends au for them. >> greg: who would ever do that? if we are okay with the risks of firearms, the risks of alcohol but suddenly, we are not okay with the risk of of something that helps millions of people. we should be addressing the balance, while reducing the risk. you have helmets for bicycles, seat belts for cars, we have to know how to effectively maintain the use of this drug while preventing the overdoses. they are overdoses but millions of people that are watching right now that use this drug. >> kimberly: since 1999, the amount of overdoses of opioids has quadrupled. >> greg: they've gone up. give them something better. what are you going to give somebody in pain better than that? hugs? i don't think so. i think you can use both. >> richard: okay. >> greg: this is a good question. the psychological and physical pain overlaps. the same part of the brain. people want to admit that opioids are not just treating physical pain. they are treating depression. a lot of people are taking this drug for depression and it's more effective than antidepressants and we don't want to admit that. if we formulated the drugs people could use it and deal with their psychological pain, you might have a real change in the way people live their lives. >> richard: i'm talking about therapy. there's nothing wrong with therapy, folks. i have a therapist. there's nothing wrong with it. >> jesse: the meeting between bill clinton and loretta lynch. concrete proof. the evidence, ahead. ♪ 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico. goin' up the country. later, gary' i have a motorcycle! wonderful. ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? 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"the new york times" described the public affairs director -- he had been pressed into service to write about it. the tone is of an apologetic teacher who doesn't like giving the tension but does because others do. the doj said they aren't interested in this story, even if fox -- evil fox -- runs with it. it's like they are saying they are still on your side, unlike fnc who still thinks the story mean something. this doesn't mind-blowing at all. they did the story anyway. it gives you a peek into the mindset of people who don't just write these stories but shape the agenda. they try to persuade viewers, like benghazi and the irs scandal like playing up others like russia, or in russia, or russia. they aren't presenters of news but curators. manipulating the significance of a story by controlling its exposure. the fact is, everyone play down the tarmac story in order to help hillary. the good news, it didn't work. >> a clear example of media bia. am i right? >> i disagree. >> than i am out of here! >> greg: the only way to win an argument is when i leave. >> dana: maybe it was the abc producer saying it. of course, we do this here. every news station had an assignment editor. deciding what to cover. if you look at what a couple news reporter said, reporters always do this. like 10:00 p.m. on a saturday, i am so sorry, my editors are really frustrating me. as a way for them to prevent themselves from being yelled at. >> greg: they knew you were home. >> dana: all. probably. >> greg: i couldn't resist. >> dana: they always apologize for bothering people. and lead to the semirecusal of loretta lynch. >> greg: this story was bigger than watergate. >> jesse: yeah, but they can cover it. the media bias isn't about what they report, it's about what they don't report. usually if the covers for republican scandals but they play up democratic scandals -- if this happened in a vacuum, that's fine. at the wikileaks shows they collude with democrats all the time. these reporters were sending up stories for democrat politicians to edit before they went to be published. we know their whole industry did that and they were exposed for it. >> dana: i'm talking about -- the c block. >> jesse: i'm talking about it in a broader perspective. so that the people can understand it at home. why when reporters are asked about this correspondence, the fbi said there was no emails about it. it turns out, there were hundreds. it was just an innocent meeting, i did it generate hundreds of pages of email correspondence? if it's just a casual unscheduled meeting, why did the security details of lynch and bill clinton coordinate the meeting? why did loretta lynch use an alias email address when she's talking about generating talking points? and told congress that she never used an alias email address? >> kimberly: why did she only have one and eric holder had four? >> dana: they all did it. >> jesse: the fbi agent told people that witnessed the meeting not to take any pictures and not to record. why did bill clinton wait on the tarmac for lynch's plane to come in and then poured the plane? he said they talked about golf. does loretta lynch play golf? there's no record of him playing in phoenix that day, it was 108 degrees. >> dana: you need a chalkboard to write everything down. >> richard: quite a fishing expedition, jesse. >> jesse: i just got a big one. >> greg: would reporters be apologetic if they were talking about russia? i don't know. i think their enthusiasm would take over. >> richard: is a nothing fish. >> jesse: you can't use that phrase, nothing burger. >> richard: i said nothing fish. >> jesse: to close. >> richard: the journalist said i'm being dragged to cover this because i usually cover the white house and the doj reporter is not in. i'm being forced to cover this because i don't cover this assignment. i'm filling in for somebody. like i'm filling in today. just saying. the point i'm making -- all of these organizations covered this ad nauseam him. wall-to-wall coverage about this tarmac meeting. let's not forget that everybody covered comey's press conferences, where he cleared clay clinton and when he said we are checking emails that almost cost her the election. when he said oh, we found all these other emails other emails. at >> kimberly: we have to cover it. >> richard: the media didn't cover it up. they covered it. >> greg: we know for a fact that they did not want to do the story because it wasn't something that fit into their narrative. >> kimberly: absolutely. it's not so shocking because this is what we saw during the obama administration and remembering when ben rhodes was laughing and blocking the media about how gullible they were? calling them useful fools? wow. what a way to bum your day when someone calls you that. >> greg: i'm used to that. >> kimberly: you are charming, at least. this is no surprise to me. they would absolutely rather cover an end crossing the street than anything that would be detrimental 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tuned to fox news for development as they come in. also developing tonight, two psychologist, the enhanced interrogation program post 9/11 are headed for trial next month. the aclu is suing dr. james mitchell and bruce jetson. one who died in custody, the suit claims the men had an extreme mental torture program for the agency. mitchell once interrogated the mastermind of 9/11 and earlier this year, he maintained she and jetson will be cleared if the case went to trial. >> those things that were done by the cia and the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks were judged not one time but four or five times by the department of justice to be legal. i never heard two of these people who are suing me. until the lawsuits showed up in 2015. >> kimberly: dana, you have some strong feelings about this. >> dana: he doesn't know the people that are prosecuting on their behalf. i find the aclu defending them is shameful. this is definitely a left-wing attack on these two men. they were public servants and asked by the government to do something very difficult. none of us would want to do that but they did. i know and i am confident that their actions saved lives. especially that one interrogation. if this was a criminal case, i would recommend the president to issue a pardon. it's not, it's a civil case. that's probably why they did it this way. they cannot bring a criminal case against these guys. i think the president should comment on this. i think it merits his attention. i think you should offer them his support. to build goodwill he needs with the intel community. it would show people like the aclu that we are going to stand behind our men and women in uniform and the intelligence community when they need to do the very necessary things they do to protect us from terrorist. >> kimberly: absolutely. they didn't do anything illegal. they were doing their jobs. it's an excellent point, dana. the president should stand up on their behalf. do a tweet, make a public statement. do something to show his support. in regard to the service they did for their country. >> greg: one of the problems is that people don't know how to form the war on terror. they act like when you're fighting the war on terror, you are fighting something like childhood obesity. fighting terror requires different rules and fighting other things. terror actually wins if you follow traditional rules. they expect you as a civilization not to do the thing that might actually win. liberals on the left will tell you that if you torture, you sacrifice the values that your country is based on, to which i would say "shut up." trying to save hundreds of thousands of lives is of value. if that requires doing some things that don't follow the rules -- i mean, there is no normal protocol when you are fighting demons. we have to understand that and deal with it realistically. these guys were charged with doing something that they could go to jail for, maybe. they still go and did it and so would you if you knew that somebody's kid's life was on the line. >> kimberly: absolutely. it jesse. >> jesse: these psychologists are patriots and the aclu make me sick. leon panetta, republican and democratic both have said that it enhanced led to intelligence that led to the assault on the bin laden compound. it also broke up terror cells and preventative mass casualty attacks and also enabled us to gain knowledge of the infrastructure, network, and financing of the al qaeda network. this is not you hammering a nail into someone's hand or breaking bones like they do in many other countries. water boarded. jose rodriguez, who ran the cia's counterterrorism center for about three years after 9/11 said it's not ports torture when you are making someone feel pain so they have to scream out what they know in order to stop the pain. this was in order to change their behavior and make them more compliant. to give them a sense of hopelessness and despair so in order to make it stop, they will then squeal. obama carved out an exemption when he banned enhanced interrogation. he said we are going to ban it but if there is a ticking time on situation, i reserve the right to water board someone. it can't be that bad, given that obama was going to do it. >> kimberly: that establishes the veracity of it. it works if he still carved out an option to do it when there was exigent circumstances. richard. >> richard: i don't agree with enhanced interrogation but you changed my mind on this particular case, dana. he didn't know the individual. that's what changed my mind on this particular case. i don't agree with enhanced interrogation because i believe in article three of the geneva convention that says torture and inhumane treatment -- coast before they are not covered over the geneva convention. >> richard: i believe as americans, i don't care what it is, the ideal that we can't change who we are because of terrorists and we can't cower to terror -- >> jesse: max before you are 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competed against a jocelyn perino. my cousin jill's daughter. get this. >> greg: what! >> dana: that's her brother on the far right. he will knock the junior boys. a big-time family. she's my second cousin once removed. congratulations, i think we have a little clip of her. it right? >> i love my new saddle. >> dana: congratulations, ann marie. jesse. >> jesse: all of basic cable for the 31st week in a row, congratulations everybody. also, fox news won prime time as well. congratulations to "the five," "hannity," and tucker. everyone else in the lineup. cnn was beat by cartoon network and also nickelodeon -- among other stations. better luck next time. >> greg: how can you tell the difference between cnn and the cartoon network? i don't know, we will be right back. >> dana: it's your turn. >> greg: greg's slow news day. as you know, a very slow tuesday. nothing's going on. let's look at a dog eating a piece of something. very slow. i think it's a stick. jesse. it is a stick. there is no news. that's as good video. look at this dog licking a stick. >> dana: is not a meme? >> kimberly: i don't get it. >> dana: kimberly. >> kimberly: i actually have one that's good. country music star glen campbell has died at the age of 81 after a long and courageous battle with alzheimer's. his family announced with the heaviest of hearts, grandfather and father, legendary singer and guitarist -- glen campbell. at the age of 81. his battle with alzheimer's. he is a legend behind the hits "wichita lineman" and "by the time i get to phoenix." his final studio album, he was diagnosed with alzheimer's six years ago. he sold more than 45 million records. 75 chart hits. "rhinestone cowboy" and "southern nights." >> dana: that's a great song. let's play that tomorrow. richard. what's her name? richard. sorry, richard! and >> richard: both my parents are jamaican, that makes me a jamaican american. this past sunday, we joined with millions across the world celebrating 55 years of independence. >> kimberly: . >> richard: the most notable jamaican, the fastest man in the world -- >> jesse: at the americans just beat him, though. sorry about that. >> richard: naomi campbell, the supermodel. and at the legendary reggae artist, bob marley. happy independence day, jamaica. >> dana: jamaican my day by being here, richard. >> kimberly: that was fun. >> dana: anyone else have anything to say? >> jesse: waters world, saturday, a big show the saturday night. >> greg: he beat me by 3,000 people. >> kimberly: jesse watters

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chain migration and the diversity lottery visa program. there's wiggle room there, trish. >> shepard: is it giving republicans heart attacks there? they're thinking of the shut down. thinking how can i ever win? >> i disagree with robin. one thing about the schumer shut down that played into trump's hands and played in his favor -- trish, you have to remember looking historically, americans are not paying attention to the government shut down. reagan shut it down three times with 3% growth. i want him to draw a line in the sand and say one of the reasons i was elected is to build a wall and to have increased border security. the thing that is puzzling to me, trish, somehow obama found $150 billion to bribe the mullahs and we kind find $25 billion to build a wall? >> you know they're going to find it. >> of course. >> walk me through how this will play out politically speaking for the democrats. there's a sense that they just want to open the flood gates, get rid of ice and i don't know as that plays into peoria, as they say, everyday americans want to feel safe, they don't want to feel under siege from a group of people that are here illegally. >> yeah, i think it's very clear that many democrats are not interested in serving americans. as a hispanic american, i got frustrated with the messaging from the democratic party that like to pose as the party of representing hispanic individuals when in reality, that's not the case. they've promised time and time again to resolve and help individuals that were brought here illegally as children and something that they cave on every time. it's clear what their interests are and their interests are honestly open borders and lawlessness. that's something that doesn't play well politically and is, trish. you're right. money is much better off than the afternoon person's hands or the company's hands or a 401(k)s hands than it is in the government's hands. think about it as i listened to the intro. the last time we had a tax cut from a democrat was john kennedy. since then, any time you've heard about a tax cut, you heard about tax cuts for the rich. if you hear about the republicans wanting to cut regulations, they want dirty water and dirty air. if we want to secure the border, the republicans want to rip children out of the arms of their mothers. >> the wicked party, the way they're painting this. a bunch of meanies. >> and you know that we index for brackets. why wouldn't we index to protect investors against the ravages of inflation that we've seen running 2 and 3%. every ten years it costs you 20%. inflation and taxes eat up a huge amount of investment gain. that could go back to reinvestment, creating more jobs and more growth. if we think we're going to balance budgets by cutting spending, we're dreaming. we have to grow our way out of those deficits. >> yeah, i'd like to see some fat get cut out of the budgets. but i agree in the growth. i agree in the importance of growth. sometimes you have to spend a little to make a little. >> absolutely. trish, that's an -- >> but what they're talking about, you know, it's indexing for inflation, capital gains taxes. is it a complicated story to present to the american people right now? will the democrats try to do that in ways that are not necessarily good for the economy? >> a great point. to answer your question, they're going to take advantage of this politically. you're going to hear tax cuts for the rich. it's going to be their montra going into 2018. i think it's going to wear thin on the american people. let me tell you why. they've heard it over and over and over again from the democrats. it's nothing new. they're not bringing something new to the table. and the average person -- the democrats may want to play this class warfare but it's not working with the average american. i talked to a group of construction workers in pittsburgh sunday. they said we hope the rich get richer, build buildings. >> obvious. everybody wants to make more. i get it. the american way. thanks, craig. >> good seeing you. >> facebook taking action to crack down on election fraud. homeland security kirstjen nielsen on "the daily briefing" with more. mike emanuel? >> a stunning announcement from facebook's chief operating officer this afternoon. >> earlier this morning, we removed 32 pages and accounts from instagram because they were involved in coordinated inauthentic behavior. this kind of behavior is not allowed on facebook because we don't want organizations or individuals creating networks of account that mislead people about who they are or what they're doing. >> while facebook didn't directly blame russia, some lawmakers are pointing the finger at moscow. the senate intelligence's committee top democrat, mark warner from virginia, says it's time for the trump administration to get serious. >> what is disturbing is that we still have a white house that refuses to acknowledge this problem. we had a closed testimony this morning the banking committee. some of the folks talking about the sanctions on russia. no one from the administration can say who is in charge of election security. >> as for the trump administration, the secretary of homeland security offered this reaction with fox's dana perino. >> facebook has taken it seriously. they should be commended for what they did today. shows that the threat is very real. americans need to know that. the russians or whoever it is in this case, we haven't attributed it, but russia is trying to manipulate us. >> it's a serious concern with mid-terms 14 weeks away, trish. >> thanks, mike emanuel. paul manafort is in court in alexandria, virginia today. it's the first trial to result from the russia probe. does it have anything to do with russia? >> this has nothing to do with collusion, russia or nothing to do with the trump campaign. won't replace the full value of your new car? you'd be better off throwing your money right into the harbor. i'm gonna regret that. with liberty mutual new car replacement we'll replace the full value of your car. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ just didn't understand the tax code and so if anything, his punishment should be the same as other americans who make a mistake. an audit. not charges of fraud and life in prison if convicted. paul manafort's team is trying to point the finger at rick gates who pleaded guilty to lesser charges and does plan to testify against paul manafort at the trial. the prosecution sent by robert mueller spent about 20 minutes detailing his lavish lifestyle and explaining expensive houses that he bought with the money from the ukrainians. while mueller's team was going through the life of luxury that paul manafort leads, the judge in this case, t.s. ellis, interrupted to say that it's not a crime to have a lot of money. so it does appear that that is how things are going right now for the mueller team. opening statements just wrapped up there. about to go to the first witness and we don't know who it is. trish? >> trish: it's interesting for the judge to say that. thanks, peter. if bob mueller's team loses this case is the white house in trouble? the white house says they have had nothing to do with the russian collusion and rudy guliani is calling it illegitimate. here to sort it out, judge andrew napolitano. you were surprised? >> i was shocked. judges have an unwritten rule not to interrupt in opening and closing statements. but this judge is not keen on the government's case. he said that bob mueller has sent you here to squeeze this guy to get information out of him that will help indict, charge and embarrass or impeach the president of the united states and i don't want to be a part of it. then they persuaded him it was a legitimate case and that's why the case is going forward. so there's two arguments here. one is that the judge is right. the only reason that they're prosecuting paul manafort is because they want him two trials, two months in solitary confinement. about imposing the most pressure that they can put on an innocent person. they want him to squeal on something, they don't know what on donald trump. the other argument is they're prosecutors. if they're looking for russian collusion and stumble on bank fraud, they can't long the other way. that i have to prosecute. >> trish: part of the problem with the special prosecutor. you'll find something along the way. >> and paul manafort's lawyers are former prosecutors. they're very talented. one of the arguments is this. paul manafort was investigated by the federal government by a team of federal for all the stuff eight years ago and they exonerated him. who was the young prosecutor that led that exoneration? rod rosenstein. who now runs the justice department and has threatened to call deputy attorney general rod rosenstein as their first witness and have him give to the jury all the reasons why he declined the prosecution of these charges eight years ago. >> trish: you think they have gotten anything from him? has mueller's team gotten what they wanted or hoped to find from paul manafort? >> absolutely not. on the steps of the courthouse this morning after a jury selection, this afternoon actually and before the opening statements, manafort's lawyer turned to the press and said, all deals are off, we will not settle anything, we won't give them anything. water rolling the dice with the jury. >> trish: collusion is one thing but that's a bad word, right? >> i'm so happy you said that. you know, i read a column every news at foxnews.com. my column is that collusion is a hollywood and media term. the crime is conspiracy, an agreement to commit a crime, whether or not you actually commit it. so for rudy guliani to say there's no such crime as collusion, he's right. it's the wrong word. >> trish: and don jr. had this meeting with the russian lawyer that somehow that is "proof" of that term that you're not wild about, collusion. but at the same time, judge, you had hillary's camp going all the way to russia on foreign soil paying for intel to dig up dirt on donald trump. if one is collusion, why isn't the other? >> it's conspiracy, not collusion. but i've been complaining for 18 months now about the justice department looking the other way for the many crimes of hillary clinton. they're not bound by jim comey's statement that she's not going to be prosecuted. they're not bound by any decision by loretta lynch not to pros cute here but they don't want to go near it. >> trish: judge, good to see it. >> thanks, trish. >> trish: we'll be right back. new laptop with 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes start them off right. with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. save $200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. save $200 on this dell laptop but how do i know if i'm i'm getting a good deal? i tell truecar my zip and which car i want and truecar shows the range of prices people in my area actually paid for the same car so i know if i'm getting a great price. this is how car buying was always meant to be. this is truecar. your mornings were made for better things than psoriatic arthritis. as you and your rheumatologist consider treatments, ask if xeljanz xr is right for you. xeljanz xr is a once-daily pill for psoriatic arthritis. taken with methotrexate or similar medicines, it can reduce joint pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma, and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts, and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. tell your doctor if you were in a region where fungal infections are common, and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. xeljanz xr can reduce the symptoms of psoriatic arthritis. don't let another morning go by without talking to your rheumatologist about xeljanz xr. according to a new study. a plan for everybody would cost the government $32 million and hit taxpayers with massive hikes. if democrats are going to slam the gop for increasing the debt, how can they answer to this? right? you can't have it both ways. what is the expression? can't have your cake and eat it, too. good to see you both. sure, they want to spend on one thing. getting out on another. why isn't there any consistency? why are we hearing about so many fiscal conservatives in the democratic party when it comes to sandra's plan? >> i think what matters to democrats is where the money is spent. sure, a lot of money over a lot of years. $3.3 trillion a year. that's about what we spent currently annually. what democrats want to do is spent taxpayer money where it benefits the vast majority of taxpayers. we have something like the recent suggestion that we would $100 billion of tax cuts on capitol gains, but, you know, 86 to 90% of the gains, the benefits, would go to the top 1%. >> trish: you say democrats want to spend the money where they think it is most fit. i think patrice, the flip side of that is, most americans would say, you know what? it would be quite nice if i could keep what i actually earn, most of it anyway. so if you're looking to spend something, maybe the answer is actually to invest in your own people themselves. the hard work that they have put in. your thoughts. >> absolutely. you're talking about a plan that would take choice and control over your resources away from individual families. the report really points out, you know,you don't know the kind of access to timely coverage or healthcare will be. you're talking about shoving millions of people into one healthcare system and not necessarily increasing the number of providers. you may lose doctors and hospitals as a result of this because of the reimbursement rates will be lower and so you have people that are going to be -- you may have rationed care or lining up around the corner to get your annual physical. that's not the best piece of my tax dollars. i'd rather have a system where i can get my health system or healthcare. >> trish: market force going into the equation. >> yeah, here's the fact. we have a problem with healthcare. democrats are trying to find a way to solve it. 600,000 family as year. talk to them about what choices they have. they have no choices. their efficiencies were acknowledged by the study that came out of george mason university. the last thing i'll say is, there's various estimates. one is that the bernie sanders camp uses, $1.4 trillion over ten years. that's what the government is playing now. >> trish: it's a problem and needs solving. i just wouldn't want to see a situation where we run the risk, patrice, of turning into a system like canada's where, you know -- i've known people that don't get the right kinds of tests and the right kind of medical care that they need because it's all run by a bureaucratic government. >> absolutely. in some countries, the government decides whether your hemorrhoid treatment will be covered. they decide whether certain illnesses for older people would end up being covered. while i recognize a lot of americans want good healthcare and healthcare coverage, this is not necessarily the best answer. the market has not been perfect but certainly has provided the better solutions. there's nothing wrong with being able to find a good common sense plan that fits somewhere in the middle. >> it will keep a lit on the costs, too. watch how quickly that happens. anyway, good to see you both. danielle, patrice, thank you. kim jong-un made a commitment to denuclearize during that summit with president trump. but u.s. officials telling fox news that it's business as usual for north korea's missile program. so where do we go from here? 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[laughter] >> you would think -- you have a two-year life span. most people will reinvest in a phone. we hit this saturation of smart phones. that's why apple is shifting away to services. they're expected to launch three more phones in september. you want hear that on the earnings call tonight. it's not their motif. they don't normally do that. i've been hearing leaked records. the mac blog. a larger phone. >> yeah. why not? >> basically a mini version of the ipad. >> and more money. people have more money now. >> they have more money. >> they're employed. >> and revenue was up 30%. like i said, it's really trying to integrate themselves into our lives. you cannot go into whole foods on any grocery store for that matter without having the option to pay via apple pay. so little by little, we're doing to see how apple pay amongst other things, apple music integrating into all aspects of what we do. >> might with a philosophical issue for tim cook. remember how he was able to stay above the frey with respect to how the other big teches have abused our data and privacy? as they get into the service area, we're going to share more information with them. they can monetize it. they don't have to. they're sitting on $243 billion cash on hand right now. >> globally speaking, these american tech companies trying to do business and do do tons of business overseas, we keep hearing from many in the investing environment that they're concerned about the threat of tariffs and what that will mean for things. it didn't affect apple in terms of this quarter. doesn't seem to be affecting them in terms of the coming quarters given the outlook. so at what point does that matter? or like what we've seen on other things a bunch of posturing from the president? >> they have put out a real good earnings report friday. 159 conference calls. tariffs mentioned 17 times. 19 times negative. for this quarter and the quarter ahead. we know specifically obviously lumber and coca-cola, carbonated soft drink sales are down. they've been raising price as long time. there's serious issues they're dealing with. >> apple has 40 stores in china. mcdonald's has store in china. >> some real, too. >> very good point. >> there's been some talk about that, those stores getting hit and the suppliers because apple builds their phones there. so you're not seeing that reflected right now in the service end. >> knock on wood. >> they're completely trying to shift away.when you have a he little bit of a divot in iphone sales or any sort of device sales and you see this increase in revenue and services, this is apple in some ways trying to protect themselves in case there's some sort of trade issue, which we're not really seeing at this point. >> i've known heetha for many years. i feel like every time we go into consumer spending times, the fall, you're going to tell me how it's going to be down and not so good and things are not so great. now we go into fall and we go into christmas et cetera, looking ahead, it feels better, right? >> completely. >> trish: leave it there. >> a high note. >> i'll take it. >> trish: forget the democrats. gop leaders. not liking the president's threat of a shut down before the mid-terms. one speaking out. you'll hear from him next. so you have, your headphones, chair, new laptop with 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes start them off right. with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. save $200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. >> trish: president trump doubling down on a shut down. he's threatening to close the government if democrats don't sign on to more border security funding. he wants the wall and the money for it. democrats say bad idea and some republicans like senate appropriations committee chairman richard shelby agree. good to have you here. welcome. >> thank you. >> trish: so you're saying neither party wins, right? when the government shuts down, bad for everyone and you don't like the political posturing that is being used right now. >> we're trying to avoid a situation where it would call for a government shut down. we've been working the appropriations process as we speak on the floor of the senate. we're working it together to try to stay within the appropriations bills and keep riders and authorizations off of them. we hope to make those deadlines. i don't know if we'll make it all between now and october 1. now, i shared some of the president's concern about the border. we have not protected our border for 30, 40 years. it's gotten worse and worse. he wants more money. we don't know how -- where we can get the money. at the same time, that will be something that we'll have to work out between the house and the senate. right now we're going to continue to work the appropriations process and try to avoid the spector of a shut down come october 1. >> trish: senator, does this put more pressure on you and your colleagues, the threat of the shut down, the president willing to put that out there as where he's willing to go if you guys are not successful? you feel more pressure as a result of the threat? >> pressure works. fear works with us. we fear a government shut down. we should try to avoid it. maybe the president is sending us a message. he's sent several messages that he's clear. >> trish: you can say. what do you think it will cost? $25 billion realistic enough? >> i don't have any idea. it's a multiyear deal. i would hope a wall would secure the borders, but i'm not sure about it. people come in here, fly in and never leave. probably millions of people come to this country. we have a real immigration problem and i'm aware of it and i hope congress is aware of it. >> trish: how do you succeed in this effort? what is it you can do and your colleagues can do to actually see this through to the finish line so that you're not looking at the possibility of a threat of a shut down as you head into mid-terms? >> we have money what the initial number was asked for by the administration in the senate bill. the house has a higher bill. we have to resolve those differences. the president wants more money. we'll see what the process brings. as i said again, a lot of the american people realize that our immigration system is broken. the president is right here. we do not protect our borders. he's right again. we ought to do everything we can to do this. this is a step in the right direction. let's see if we can make it. >> what do you say to the democrats saying we need to get rid of ice? we need to start over. >> we probably needed to start it over a long time ago but now we have what it is today. we have an immigration service they're. we have a border patrol and everything. we need to step it up. we need to protect the country. we haven't. we can do better. to start all over, i don't know what would happen in the meantime. >> trish: all right. like you said, fear, threats. sometimes they work. you have your work cut out. thank you. >> thank you. >> trish: we'll have more after this. manage expectations, they would like to let investors know if it's a problem and they are not saying so. it's good news. we'll talk more about it tomorrow on "the intelligence report." 2:00 p.m. eastern on the fox business network. 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want to become citizens. in full migrants your platform for reliable information. this is deja vu news live from berlin the end of an era in japan emperor akihito abdicates during a solemn ceremony at tokyo's imperial palace it's the first abdication the country has seen in more than two hundred years. also coming up on the show so-called islamic state releases of propaganda video purportedly showing its leader of your all the gobby in it he claims the easter bombings in sri lanka where the group's revenge towards defeat in syria. and is this a russian operative that's the question authorities in norway are asking after fisherman found this beluga whale with a camera harness of waters off far from a russian naval base. i'm brian thomas thanks so much for being with us japan's emperor akihito has formally stepped down from the chrysanthemum throne in a ceremony at the imperial palace in tokyo and his final speech the popular eighty five year old thank the people of japan and said he would pray for peace and happiness in the country and around the world akihito is the first japanese emperor to abdicate in more than two hundred years. his fifty nine year old son nora vito will officially become japan's one hundred twenty six emperor in a short ceremony that will take place tomorrow the emperor holds no political power but people in japan revere him as a symbol of the country's rich tradition and a long history. while with us here in the studio to talk about this is due to abuse. grew up in japan reports there from there for us again joe can you put this into some perspective for us how big an event is this for the people of tibet it is a very big event i mean as you say the arrow changes it's like we have two thousand and nineteen thieu right now and tomorrow it will be the first year of a different era basically and i just looked at social media it's just completely full of people talking about his say which is still the current era as last day in the or war or whatever it is so individuals for the individuals it's very important for them because it's the last day of an iran tomorrow there's a new era and a lot of people are very hopeful that it's going to be a great new age you know you mentioned social media and it just points out how much japan is a high tech modern country and with this event that we saw today also one very very steeped in tradition here it seems like a. contradiction but it's not really and i find it interesting that it is the longest continuing monarchy and at the same time it seems so out of date in the way that there is and president steps down but it's also a very sign of a modern monarchy because before that it would have been unthinkable that and then prostates down he was god basically living god and now it shows out because he was allowed basically by. to abdicate that he's also just. but still a very very beloved ok we're going to talk about that in a moment and we're also going to talk about the new emperor akihito son first let's take a closer look back at the reign of. emperor akihito creating his people for the first time after ascending to present them through. his reign would see him modernize japan's tradition bound monarchy and extend a hand of peace to those harmed by his country's imperial ambitions it was in his father's name that japan committed many of the atrocities that shook the pacific during world war two. and akihito spent most of his early life and diplomatic trips where he expressed his deep remorse over his country's wartime transgressions in modern times his frequent calls for peace have been seen by many as a quiet message to forces within his own government ones who would like to see japan take on a more assertive role on the world stage. driven by concerns over his own failing health he too his education will make him the first japanese emperor to leave the throne without leading his country into war. a legacy he reflected on during his last official appearance his japanese emperor as his country marked the anniversary of its wartime capitulation. than thinking of the peaceful times that have extended for many years after the war reflecting on our past and with a deep feeling of remorse i earnestly hope that the ravages of war will never be repeated i also pray for world peace and our nation's further development you must . go there now the former emperor held a new emperor naruhito be different from his father or his modern in the way that for example he is the first emperor to have studied abroad and his wife as well and he's also known to be to criticize actually the strict court traditions for example his wife had to go says a strict editions and now has problems with depression as well because there are very high expectations on this very strict court so he may want to know is the court to make it a bit. approachable you know at the same time of the throne the chrysanthemum throne is a unifying symbol for the nation isn't it and and it also has the political significance doesn't it especially during a time of rising tensions and uncertainty in the region i would imagine they're basically doesn't have them for doesn't have diplomatic power but he can go outside and speak to other nations which for my emperor has done a lot actually much more than the other and the other improper or previous emperor has and i think that as for my. has already done he has talked to other nations korea china and in turn basically for the war crimes and so he was a unifying force and i think that his son will continue on that legacy q during the reporting from japan for us right there thanks very much for all your insights today on this going to check in now some of the other stories making news at this hour the united states deputy attorney general rod rosenstein has submitted his resignation he's the official who appointed the special counsel robert muller to investigate president trump's election count and also supported the justice department's conclusion that the president had not really structed miller's investigation resignation has been expected for some time. and president trump is suing deutsche bank to stop it from handing over financial records about his companies to congressional committees or to bankers one of trump's main creditors for his businesses to democrat led committees have subpoenaed the bank as they continue their investigations into allegations of foreign interference in the twenty sixth election. the chief executive of boeing dennis mon berg has defended the company's safety record in decline to take any more than partial blame for two deadly crashes of its bestselling plane the seven three seven mass. speaking after the shareholders meeting said boeing it almost finished up that it would make that plane safe. now he has been presumed dead and that more than once but the leader of so-called islamic state could be alive if it is verified a propaganda video released by astro's about dottie praising the easter sunday bombings of churches and shivery law he says they're part of the group's revenge words losses in syria. if this is who islamic state claims it is that it would be abu bakr dieties first appearance in five years. in the video shot in an unknown location he acknowledges the group's recent defeat in its last syrian stronghold of by a goose he also refers to other i.a.s. losses in libya and in iraq. but he tries to justify the defeats by saying doesn't have to end it just has to continue carrying out to jihad. urges his followers to carry out revenge attacks around the world. he goes on to praise the deadly bombings in sri lanka on easter sunday which killed two hundred fifty people saying they were ordered in revenge for what he calls the brothers in bag. one with his. despite his threats analysts say the purpose of this video is to show that he's still in charge and larch and has managed to evade capture. since this moment back in twenty fourteen when he announced the establishment of a caliphate in the iraqi city of mosul. but he remains the world's most wanted man the us has a twenty five million dollars bounty on his head and they say they will continue to hunt him down until he's found what. it's to mozambique now which is struggling with severe flooding in the wake of. more rainfall forecast the country's north with a powerful storm made landfall sunday so far thirty eight people have lost a number is expected to rise. the catastrophic weather conditions have been hindering aid efforts with flights grounded this is the second cycle on to hit the country and in as many months six weeks ago another cycle and devastated the region farther south. they can't get rid of the water quickly enough to rain here in pember in northernmost on beak keeps on coming. rote snarr resemble rivers or actual rivers have burst their banks leaving huge areas underwater. aid agencies say psych loan kenneth's will bring twice as much rain is e.t.i. entire crop fields have been wiped out and people a shortage of food. you know the business of making this business because these people need this bread but i think they have some something that people feel. the sheer amount of water on the ground is making it difficult to access the affected areas rescuers from brazil are on the scene they've come with boats because at the moment it's too dangerous for helicopters to fly but helicopters are what's really needed with many stranded without supplies. and want to help. police people young people men to help me get until help arrives all they can do is wait counting the cost of the latest tropical disaster to land on mozambique shores. and for more all these floods did abuse adrian crees spoke with the prime minister of mozambique carlos augustine your daughters audio he asked them what needed to be done to help the affected regions we lost about two hundred eighty people in the all over the cup to go do it but to me still. still you have to have to move into to make sure that you. know normal people have been are i mean the last for most of the day life. we need to move on move forward just give the instinct that look it's a look here boots because some some place look you believe not possible to go to greece that they ruled by even better roads because of roads is this because you're cut off in the when you travel the food the indian you know nobody in the you know the stuff to be the left in the boom boom boom through to the sun so the public is infrastructures in the other than for such things as well the good news the damage we have no and process to really be good. for the people we need to every step of the people that we need there were they say the construction of the house we're going to the pier the roofs in terms of do so if things are moving in to that. that was a prime minister of mozambique in your daughter's audio talking to you there more of that story at our website dot com it's now the mystery whale spotted off the coast of northern norway fishermen were puzzled when they found the beluga whale because it was equipped with a camera harness a turned out that are in this artist's carried a not so mysterious clue about where that beluga may have come from. if. this baluga whale is allegedly a spy. harassing fishing boats off the northern coast of norway the way o. seemingly used to human contact had been fitted with a go pro harness so. there were clips like these that were on the whale we tried to reach those clips and open them my colleague and i tried to do this for quite some time but we couldn't do it once we touched the clips the whale reacted and took off . once freed from the hand as the fisherman found the web peaches bug written on the inside. experts are suggesting that this whale may have been trained by the russian navy and was either released or escaped captivity the whale was found not far from a russian naval base and russian marine scientists say it's unlikely to be part of 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el paso, texas outside another american crime scene, another sight of a massacre by guns. welcome to our viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. any minute now, we will hear from president trump. this as the nation mourns 29 people killed in two states just 13 hours apart. what will the president say? what will he do? what will he push for? what will he deliver? so far he has floated the idea of tying universal background checks to something he's desired for a long time, immigration reform, which normally means money as well for a wall on the border. he also took a moment to blame the media for the attacks and the violence. left unsaid anything about white supremacy. in fact, since these shootings, particularly the one here in el paso where the shooter referenced white supremacist views, the president has not used those words. >> look at the comments of his fbi director, christopher wray emphasizing the danger in this country right now. the country is mourning the lives of so many lost so quickly and we keep seeing videos like this day after day. that is dayton, ohio this weekend where video released overnight shows how quickly that gunman was able to kill and how quickly dayton police stopped him seconds before he entered a bar packed with people trying to hide from him. so what can be done and what will be done, jim, to prevent this from happening again? >> i'll tell you, i spent a lot of time in war zones. i've heard those sounds in iraq and afghanistan. that kind of gunfire, to hear it on an american street is just a different story, and yet it's not the first time and likely won't be the last. let's get to cnn's pam brown. she's live at the white house. the president is telegraphing background checks in exchange for immigration reform. any mention of assault weapons or is this going to be the president's path? >> reporter: this morning president trump suggested tying the background checks to reform after the shooting in texas that targeted immigrants. what he didn't indicate in his tweets this morning is whether he supported legislation passed in the house earlier this year requiring background checks that the white house threatened to veto. president trump also has yet to address white nationalism and the gunman in el paso targeting hispanics and immigrants. trump has warned of an invasion of undocumented at the southern border, and some of that was in the manifesto by the gunman. president trump has yet to acknowledge his rhetoric. we're going to learn more about president trump's plan when he addresses the nation any moment now. white house officials tell me the president is expected to introduce preliminary policy ideas in what will be prepared remarks from the tell prompter. in the past he has considered assault weapons ban, but then he backed away from that under pressure from the nra. in brief remarks yesterday the president focused on mental health issues and not guns in the wake of the back-to-back shootings. so as we await his remarks, about he take more of a leadership role in gun control? will he address white nationalism? and will the president take any president for his rhetoric? the white house officials are defensive about the suggestion the president's rhetoric prompted the texas shooting, but his rhetoric on immigration as president of the united states cannot be ignored. back to you. >> it absolutely cannot. pamela brown, thank you so much for being there. we're going to hear from the president in just moments, jim. >> the president's words certainly heard loud and clear here in el paso. i've heard that from a lot of residents in the last 24 hours. let's get the latest from el paso. police say the shooting suspect is volunteering information now, but he is showing no remorse or regret for a massacre that left 20 people dead. we've also learned that the justice department is seriously considering bringing federal hate crime and federal firearm charges against the suspect. josh campbell has been following the story. he is a former fbi supervisory special agent as well as a cnn law enforcement analyst. tell us what value investigators can learn from a shooter can who in unusual circumstances rather than dying in the midst of a massacre like this, turned himself in. what can they learn of value now? >> jim, we've seen so many instances in the past where a shooter will be engaged by law enforcement and is killed or opts to turn the gun on themselves. we saw that a week ago in california at the food festival are a footer killed three people, injured a dozen more and then turned the gun on himself after being shot by officers. this is a different case in el paso because the shooter is alive. he was questioned by law enforcement. we're told that he was providing information and was answering their questions willfully. now, what helps them get to the motive. the idea of why this person came here intending to cause mass violence and murder. we talked about this investigation and some of the threads that are still lingering. one of them pertains to the distance between where the shooter is from and the location of the actual attack. he lived some 650 miles from this area, from this walmart. so we've seen this manifesto that's alleged by ln tied to him. law enforcement is working to definitively determine whether that was his, in which this person describes white supremacist ideology, hatred toward immigrants and hispanics. we're in a boredrd city with a large hispanic population. the key item for investigators is trying to determine did he come here to kill hispanics and minorities. sadly, jim, also we've seen instances in the past where these type of white sfrupremacis are proud of what they've done and they're proud to tell law enforcement what they did to cause the mass murder. >> that's one reason they like to share, as if they're proud of what they did. bragging about it, almost. josh campbell, it's good to have someone with your experience on the case. poppy. >> it certainly is. let's take you to ohio, because police say it is still too soon for them to really speculate on any motive about what caused this gunman to just murder nine people in a minute. but four former classmates of the gunman say he had a hit list of students in high school that he wanted to kill. polo is live for us in dayton, ohio. what do you know about the list, polo? >> nine people that were killed, and that includes the shooter's own sister here, and as we are hearing from some of the former classmates, they describe him as essentially a dark and depressive individual, who according to at least four former classmates kept a kill list. at the same time, people are searching for the motive. they still want to hear from police why this killer decided to do what he did here. what we are hearing is a very shocking but short timeline that gives you a sense of how quickly things changed on this street yesterday morning. investigators saying that in a matter of second, 24 seconds, this killer was able to injury 35 people, nine of them fatly. it took only about 50 years from where he made his way into the street where he was sfrung topp police. we're reflecting on the memory of these five people and praying for the recovery of about two dozen people who continue to recover. but at the same time they are certainly hoping to hear what the motive was and hoping to hear from the president. >> that will happen in moments. we're waiting for the president. he will make a statement in the diplomatic room. here comes the president who said just yesterday we have to get it stopped. this has been going on for years. let's listen to what he says right now. >> good morning. my fellow americans, this morning our nation is overcome with shock, horror and sorrow. this weekend more than 80 people were killed or wounded in two evil attacks. on saturday morning in el paso, texas a wicked man went to a walmart store where families were shopping with their loved ones. he shot and murdered 20 people and injured 26 others, including precious little children. then in the early hours of sunday morning, dayton, ohio, another twisted monster opened fire on a crowded downtown street. he murdered nine people, including his own sister and injured 27 others. the first lady and i join all americans in praying and grieving for the victims, their families, and the survivors. we will stand by their side forever. we will never forget. these barbaric slauters are an assault on our communities, an attack on our nation and a crime against all humanity. we are sickened by this monstrous evil, the cruelty, the hatred, the malice, the blood shed and the terror. our hearts are shattered for every family whose children, husbands and wives were ripped from their arms and their lives. america weeps for the fallen. we are a loving nation and our children are entitled to grow up in a just, peaceful and loving society. together, we lock arms to shoulder the grief. we ask god in heaven to ease the anguish of those who suffer and we vow to act with urgent resolve. i want to thank the many law enforcement personnel who responded to these atrocities with the extraordinary grace and courage of american heros. i have spoken with texas governor greg abbott and ohio governor mike dewine, as well as mayor dee margo of el paso, texas, and mayor nan whaley of dayton, ohio, to stress our profound sadness and unfailing support. today we also send the condolences of our nation to the president of mexico and all the people of mexico for the loss of their citizens in the el paso shooting. terrible, terrible thing. i have also been in close contact with attorney general barr and fbi director wray. federal authorities are on the ground and i have directed them to provide any and all assistance required, whatever is needed. the shooter in el paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate. in one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white house supremacy. these sinister ideologies must be defeated. hate has no place in america. hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart and devours the soul. we have asked the fbi to identify all further resources they need to investigate and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism, whatever they need. we must recognize that the internet has provided a dangerous avenue to radicalize disturbed minds and perform demented acts. we must shine light on the dark recesses of the internet and stop mass murders before they start. the internet, likewise, is used for human trafficking, illegal drug distribution and so many other heinous crimes. the perls of the internet and social media cannot be ignored and they will not be ignored. in the two decades since columbine, our nation has watched with rising horror and dread as one mass shooting has followed another, over and over again, decade after decade. we cannot allow ourselves to feel powerless. we can and will stop this evil contagion. in that task, we must honor the sacred memory of those we have lost by acting as one people. open wounds cannot heal if we are divided. we must seek real bipartisan solutions. we have to do that in a bipartisan manner that will truly make america safer and better for all. first, we must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs. i am directing the department of justice to work in partnership with local, state and federal agencies, as well as social media companies to develop tools that can detect mass shooters before they strike. as an example, the monster in the parkland high school in florida had many red flags against him, and yet nobody took decisive action. nobody did anything. why not? second, we must stop the gl violence in our society. this includes the gruesome video games that are now commonplace. it is too easy today for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. we must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately. cultural change is hard, but each of us can choose to build a culture that celebrates the inherent worth and dignity of every human life. that's what we have to do. third, we must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people, not only get treatment, but when necessary, involuntary confinement. mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun. fourth, we must make sure that those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms and that if they do, those firearms can be taken through rapid due process. that is why i have called for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders. today i'm also directing the department of justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay. these are just a few of the areas of cooperation that we can pursue. i am open and ready to listen and discuss all ideas that will actually work and make a very big difference. republicans and democrats have proven that we can join together in a bipartisan fashion to address this plague. last year, we enacted the stop school violence and fix into law, providing grants to improve school safety and strengthening critical background checks for firearm purchases. at my direction, the department of justice banned bump stocks. last year we prosecuted a record number of firearms offenses. but there is so much more that we have to do. now is the time to set destructive partisanship aside. so destructive. and find the courage to answer hatred with unity, devotion and love. our future is in our control. america will rise to the challenge. we will always have and we always will win. the choice is ours and ours alone. it is not up to mentally ill monsters, it is up to us. if we are able to pass great legislation after all of these years, we will ensure that those who were attacked will not have died in vain. may god bless the memory of those who perished in toledo and may god protect them. may god protect all of those from texas to ohio, may god bless the victims and their families, may god bless america. thank you very much. thank you. >> the president there issuing an emotional, i think you can say, public statement following these two days of deadly violence in america. he said two things there, poppy, that he has not yet said about these shootings. he mentioned white supremacy and said that there should be a clear condemnation of racism, bigotry and white sfrupremacy. he also called the violence domestic terrorism, again a phrase that we've rarely heard him apply to acts like this here on u.s. soil. but krucrucially, what is next? the president did not explicitly mention support for universal background checks. he talked about the internet and video games and mental health laws, he talked about so-called red flag laws which would prevent people who have mental health diagnose he's and other warnings from getting weapons. he also mentioned instituting the death penalty or rate crimes and mass murders. we were talking a lot going into this, is this moment different in terms of how the country reacts? and at least on gun control measures, universal background checks does not appear that the president has moved significantly on that. >> despite 90% of republicans supporting them. i don't know if this moment is different. let's hope so, but i don't know. if sandy hook wasn't different and parkland wasn't different, why should we believe that this will be different? so jim and i would like to bring in all of our panelists who just listened to the president with us. we heard the president say, quote, mental illness pulls the trigger, not the gun. and he did bump stocks, for example. his administration did ban those. but what he also did before parkland is he rolled back an obama-era regulation specifically aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. it would mandate that certain information from the social security department had to go out about people that were trying to buy guns to indicate if they were getting help for mental health issues, and his administration chose to take that away. >> you know, i guess this speech in some ways is sort of a diversionary tactic for this president. you look at what happened in el paso, it was about what christopher wray has been talking about, the rise of white nationalism, the rise of white supremacists and this ideology that this killer likely laid out in this racist essay. so the president wants to talk about video games and mental health and he certainly doesn't want to talk about the ways in which he in some ways through his own speech has -- in some ways if you're a white supremacist, you find the president's words possibly inspirational, possibly comforting. the white supremacist in there and the way that he tries to absolve the president, he certainly points to him, too. he says the president is echoing his own thoughts. so i think that's a big missing piece. he talks about the white supremacy and says we need to come together and call these people out. his speech has been so bad over the last four years and this is a problem. the republicans don't want to talk about it and the president doesn't want to talk about it. video games in this sense and mental health, and as you point out, even in what he's done as president. it shows that he doesn't even really think that's an issue that he wants to address. >> pam brown, you were with us before the president spoke. you heard his words. what's your read on this from the white house at this moment? >> a couple of things here, poppy. what stuck out to me was the president was really focused on evil attacks, pinning this on mental health issues, an act of evil. and he clearly from my view stayed away from connecting these shootings from gun violence and proposing anything new in terms of gun reform. he only looked backwards, looking at the bump stocks ban that his administration did enact. but clearly the president is not as forward-leaning on gun control as he has been in the past after other shootings like the parkland shooting when you'll recall he considered assault rifle bans, when he talked about raising the age limit for buying rifles, background checks. we didn't hear any of that today. and of course we know he backed away from those proposals under pressure from the nra. something else that stood out to me was the president condemning white nationalism and supremacy, his words racism. but he didn't acknowledge his own role in fanning the flames. instead he pointed the blame at the internet and social media. so the question is does the president have any acknowledgment of the role his rhetoric as the president of the united states might play in what happened in el paso? we do know that he has called the invasions of people coming over the southern border, that language was used in the manifesto connected to the gunman, though that gunman said he had his views before president trump. but that was also something missing from the president's statements. >> david urban, let me ask you, because the question following these attacks is always what is different. what will be done now? the president tweeted this morning the possibility of expanding background checks in exchange for immigration reform, yet the president came to the podium there and he did not mention that proposal again. he talked about video games and instituting the death penalty for hate crimes. and i had a republican congressman on earlier, the only one who said yes to our request among 50 sitting gop lawmakers, and he again pushed back on moving too quickly on background checks or on gun control measures. i wonder -- you're inside the republican party. is there any change here? will republicans vote for anything different now, particularly if they don't hear from the president there calling for a particular gun control measure or background check measure after these shootings? >> so jim, let me just start out by saying, like everyone, my heart goes out to all the families affected by this tragedy, both in texas and in ohio. it's horrific and i can't imagine what those families. so my thoughts and prayers are with those families and their friends. as to your specific question, jim, you could go back to 1966. i was just looking at some articles and some data. 1966, at the top of the university of texas bell tower, a shooter goes up and kills 15 people, injuries 30. that's how long this has been -- we've been talking about this. i looked at boil moyer's statement, lbj's press secretary -- >> the numbers are going up significantly in recent years. i know it didn't begin yesterday. but you know the department of justice -- >> it's going up. >> and the weapons make the death toll go up. >> let me answer if question. i agree there needs to be much more common sense. we talked about the mental health background checks. you sheenouldn't be able to get weapon if you're being treated for a mental health issue. that's just common sense. >> there's no evidence that these shooters were being treated for mental health. so what measure is going to happen now? >> jim, i don't know. listen the congress and the president need to sit down. i heard you earlier advocating for reducing clip size, if you had a smaller clip you don't kill as many people. that's absolutely true. but these people are twisted. they'll find ways around that. they'll tape two clips together. you've been in a war zone. you see how you take a clip and you tape one and the other one upside down so you can change it quicker. the people who are perpetrating these crimes aren't normal. you watched the shooter walk into the walmart. he had hearing protection and eye protection. what kind of sick person puts hearing protection and eye protection on before he goes to slaughter people? >> i'm asking the question, what addresses that, the availability? >> i don't know, jim. without banning, so you could advocate banning all assault weapons, all assault-style weapons, and then somebody is going to resort to something else. there has to be some sort of common sense approach taken here oub obviously to reduce these activities where unstable people get a weapon that could cause a lot more destruction than a handgun with -- if you went back to a revolver. but let's not forget, machine guns have been around since the late 1800s. gangsters and criminals used them. john machine gun kelly. what has been different? machine guns have been available. tommy guns. what has changed in american culture that makes people do what they're doing today? weapons have been available for a very long time. something has changed in society and something has changed in american families. something has changed in our culture that -- >> we have a president now where you have a manifesto where someone is calling out the president about his own speech, about latinos. that certainly is something that has changed t too. do you see that as something that's changed as well? >> but the shooter says in the manifesto, why don't you take him at his own words. he said the president has nothing to do with this. >> he's also acknowledging that the president's rhetoric is similar to his. that is also what he's -- he's not completely absolving him. he's saying don't point to the president who has a similar rhetoric as the shooter does. >> i want to bring in the congressman, but mia makes a point that one thing that has changed is that the highest office in the land has seemed to make it okay to call people from other countries invaders and has said that congresswomen should leave this country, okay, minority congresswomen. i'm not going to fight with you about this because i want all the voices in. i'm just stating a fact. that's one thing that has changed. >> poppy it's an unfair jump to say that's advocating violence. >> it's not an unfair jump when i say that one thing that has changed, david urban, is the rhetoric in this country. >> when the gentleman shot up the republican baseball team who was a fan of social media on the left and television on the left and politicians on the left, was there a human cry against those television personalities or those politicians that fueled the flames of that gentleman? i'm just asking a question. >> congressman, to you. you said one thing that has changed. i noted one thing that has changed. the president just made a promise to our kids. he just said our kids are entitled to grow up in a world where this isn't their reality and he said, and i quote, we vow to act with urgent resolve. should the american people tomorrow morning, next monday morning, expect anything different? >> i'm not hopeful. as much as i am grieving with the rest of the american people, i'm not hopeful. let's remember that the republican party and evidenced by the fact that they won't show up on tv, on cnn, to speak to this issue, the republican party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the nra. they do their bidding first and foremost and until that ends, nothing is going to happen. and i say to my democratic party candidates, let's stop being spineless and standing up. we passed in 1993 the brady bill. we passed an assault weapons ban. we have to reexamine our relationship. this relationship that america and that americans have with guns, and how it is. and lastly, let's remember one thing. this is the president who began his campaign by saying mexicans are murders, rapists, drug dealers, we need to get rid of them. this is a president of the united states who calls people like me who come to the united states of america, breeders, animals. and he has no self-examination today in his comments. he said that those that are prejudice and bigotry and hatred are heartless, don't have a heart, don't have a soul. well, mr. president by our own words, you are heartless and soulless because you have been the propaganda chief of hatred here in the united states of america. and look, black people can't go to church unless they're assassinated by a white supremacist. jews can't go to the synagogues, latinos can't go shopping. people live in fear because of hatred. and yes, we need a war, a war on terrorism here in the united states of america to eradicate. but the first thing we need to do is the president of the united states has to stop, has to stop igniting the flames of hatred and bigotry and division in this country. we all bleed the same, we all defend this nation when it comes under attack. we are all americans, not just you, mr. trump, and the people you want to vote for you. represent us all. i don't believe any of what you said today. you have no legitimacy and you have no standing until you have your own personal self-examination about the contributions that you have made to white nationalism and white supremacy and its rise in the united states of america. >> david urban, what is your response to -- i just would like to let david urban respond to that. >> poppy, listen. congressman has his perspective, which i don't agree with. it again would go back and say i do believe we need some common sense. the congress of the united states, i agree with the congressman that congress needs to get into action and really find some common sense things they can do to deal with the gun problem in america. in his state of illinois in chicago, more people die every week, every month from gun violence than do in the shooting. there needs to be a holistic approach so americans can be safe in their homes and not worry about being killed anywhere. >> john avlon, let me ask you a question -- >> here's the problem. donald trump doesn't care about inner city people that live in chicago and that are dying because of gun violence. he doesn't care. he simply wants to use us as a foil to speak to his political base. look, the fact is the president of the united states must stop inciting violence in america. he is the inviter in chief in the violence that we are living in in america. he has a huge platform and there was no self-examination of his own contribution. stop calling people like me breeders. stop calling people like me murders. my mom and dad are great people. my children are great people. we came to america to contribute. stop demonizing us. we love our neighbors and this contributed to the great success and democracy of what is america. stop using us as political pawns in your game of reelection. the american people should be first for the record. we're going to be back here in two weeks, and here's what i predict, nothing happened. because this president will not act. the last time we had the brady bill and assault weapons ban, we had a democratic president and a democratic house and you know what the republicans did? they used our advancement of gun control to take and make sure we didn't have a majority in the house of representatives. they used it against us. so look, we have to stand up for the american people. yes, my heart broke. let's stop allowing people to break the hearts of the american people as they watch these deaths occur each and every day on tv and let's just say the president, you must have a self-examination and a self-reckoning with your own words and contribution to the death and mayhem that exists in america today. >> jim and poppy -- >> go ahead, david. >> i was just going to say. again, to go back, 1966 this is when this started. there was a democratic president then. there have been plenty of democratic presidents and democratic kongs with democratic majorities to move common sense gun legislation forward. america needs to act. we do need to do things. there needs to be a holistic approach. you can't just make away magazines and think everything is going to be better. we need to address it so america can be safer. >> but the republican party is owned by the nra. >> that's a simplistic view. >> they contributed tens of millions of dollars to his campaign. they are foremost against any, any attempt by the legislative branches of government and by the executive branches of government -- >> the clinton and obama administration -- >> one at a time, please, gentlemen. we're not getting anywhere when you're talking over each other. david, a quick response and then i want to get a john avlon. >> just again, there have been democratic marjjorities in the house and senate. the congressman is not telling the truth when he says this is simply the republicans holding up the world. that's not true. you're not being honest, congressman. >> david, the facts are you know as well as me that the nra ratings for republican congressmen matter and if they vote for, they get credit. >> jim, they mattered for democratic congressmen as well. you can't lay this at the feet of the republican party. >> david, did democrat controlled house just passed a universal background check bill that's been blocked in the senate. that's a recent example. you agree. but john avlon, for this broadcast we asked # 50 republican lawmakers to come on. the only one who said yes was ted yoho to his credit. but when i spoke with him a short time ago, he was repeating many of the positions we've heard from republican lawmakers back to past shootings. talking about mental health and not rushing a decision on universal background checks. he doesn't support universal background checks and the president tweeting that he might tie them to immigration reform did not mention new background checks legislation in his statement there when he had an opportunity to do so. your read of the politics here, have they changed one iota after these attacks today? is the dynamic any different? >> it should be. but you saw the president go out in front on twitter and call for universal background checks and it was notably omitted from his scripted remarks. what was that conversation like inside the white house? what pressure groups were calling and saying you can't say that? the real shame is this is a 90% issue. 90% of americans support background checks. david urban is talking about a common sense approach. mental health may be part of it, video games may be part of it, but there are countries around the world that have mental health issues and video games but they don't have the kind of mass murder that we see here in the united states because of gun violence. so universal background checks ought to be part of that. let's not be naive about what can get through. but let's also not disagree about the fact that this has been blocked by mitch mcconnell and opposed by republican presidents over and over again. >> you know what, wes lowery, as jim aptly brought up, hr-8, bipartisan background checks after 2019 passed the house. 241 votes to 90. hr-1112, bipartisan background checks, again passed the house but didn't go anywhere in the senate. so how does mitch mcconnell answer these questions when this issue of background checks has 90% of republican support? >> certainly. this mab has been an issue for long time where the politics and our political representative system has been out of touch and undemocratic with what the will of the people is. if this went up for a national will tomorrow, all of these things would pass. but the reality is because of the way our political system works, it doesn't really matter the vast majority of americans want many things that are considered common sense steps. going back to the president's comments, because i think it's very clear and obvious the republicans are the ones obstructing legislation to change the way guns operate in our country. we know that. we don't need to pretend this is on both-sides issue. but going back to what the president's challenge was. he had to deal with two challenges. the crisis of gun violence and white supremacy and domestic terror. he acknowledged one and not the other. he acknowledged the domestic terror crisis we're dealing with. he named it what it was, he called it race ist. he did not as the congressman notes, involve any introspection of the fact that the president's words included things like the president's words. but on the gun crisis issue i think there was a refusal to name what it was. we know that we have a health crisis in the country, a mental health crisis, but to demagogue these shooters, many people deal with mental health crisis and the vast majority of them will never pick up a weapon. they're more likely to be the victim of violence like this than to be the perpetrator. second, video games, we should be doing studies of china then. this reminds me of marilyn mannsen being claimed for columbine. there is one thing that is different in the united states and that is our guns and the availability of them. and sure, would banning one type of gun get rid of the complete possibility of someone committing an act of terror. of course not. but the hope would be that we would get together to take the most steps possible to make it as difficult as possible for anyone to commit an act like this. it was mentioned earlier tommy guns and machine guns. guess what? those things are illegal now and people can't walk into places and use them. >> and the important foipoint o that, they've been illegal since the 1930s. the president and dave urban talked about mental health and one of the first things he did was turn over an executive order by obama when he came in that dealt with gun access to folks with mental health issues. so maybe that's a reversal or some sign of progress but let's look at the whole field and not be naive, because there were a lot of republican talking points that don't get to the heart of the issue of what we're dealing with in america. >> i'm not optimistic about the future as long as this president of the united states is in the white house, as long as my republican colleagues are wholly-owned subsidiary of the nra. they respond to their beck and call each and every time. we should put americans first. let's remember the people praying in their church. let's remember the jews praying in their synagogue. let's remember latinos going shopping. let's remember that americans are fearful of day-to-day activities. we need gun control. not just background checks. we need vigorous gun control. this is a war on terrorism. we should go after the terrorists. >> mia, it just brings to my mind, it's a national embarrassment. who cares how strong our economy is or how strong our military is if americans are killing americans like this over and over and over again? >> i think that's right. only in america. this is a unique problem to this time in american history where you have this proliferation of guns. you can talk about mental health and video games all you want. but as wes pointed out, certainly there are mental health issues in other countries and video games as well. and the other unique part of this era is trump's rhetoric on race, his rhetoric about black and brown people in the republican party's unwillingness to really talk about it and in some ways really pick up that language. if you look at john cornyn's twitter feed, some of the language mirrors some of the language in that manifesto from the killer in el paso. david urban has a lot to say about congress and what congress needs to do. i wonder if he has any advice for what the president should do in terms of his language, talking about mexicans as killers, talking about mexicans as rapists, talking about baltimore, talking about african countries in a disparaging way. so all fine and good that he wants congress to come together and sort of clean up their act and address gun control. but listen, the president also has a responsibility. i think most americans agree, to not be so disparaging towards black people, towards brown people in the way that we've seen him do time and time again, endless, countless examples of him really i think inciting this sort of rhetoric at his rallies. and again we saw it in the manifesto with this killer pointing out trump's own rhetoric. >> nia, to be fair -- >> let's let david respond if we can. >> so nia, i think to be fair to me, you should recognize that i do call the president out each and every time. every one of those instances you talk about, i've said the president should not do that. it's not helpful, it's not right, and i call him out each and every time. so i think you should be fair and acknowledge that. >> and you realize -- go ahead. >> i think it's time to stop talking -- look, that's good that you call the president out. it's time to turn your back on this president. it's time to abandon and stop supporting this president. >> congressman, you -- >> as long as people do that, he will continue to speak to these issues. yes, in america sometimes you have to take on your own leader. and i know what you're going to say, that we should do the same thing. guess what? when barack obama refused to keep his promise on immigration, democrats are the ones that took him on, called him deporter in chief and had him change his ways. people within the party have to take the president of the united states on. we did it in the past and we need to do it in the future today. look, the majority of people in america in two polls, two nationally registered polls, a majority of people, how sad it is, believe the president of the united states is a racist. that's not me. i stand with the majority of the people of the united states of america. that's a sad commentary when the majority of people believe this president is a race ist. a racist president of the united states of america. >> we have a reaction from tim ryan from ohio, and also a democratic candidate for president. when the president concluded his remarks he seemed to reference the wrong city. of course the shooting was in dayton but he said toledo. that is tim ryan's response, toledo, f me. john avlon, a moment where the president didn't seem to have specific knowledge of where this tragedy, nine dead people actually took place in the state of ohio. >> the wrong city in ohio, and presumably you've got to imagine that's not in the tele prompter. i understand tim ryan's frustration from the great city of youngstown, ohio. it's about what emotional mark did this massacre make in your heart and mind and then can you be bothered to remember the right city rae's name. in the history of mass shootings we've had in this country and there have been far too many for too long, what's new is the introduction of white national ist terrorism that is on the rise in america. and the president checked the box by mentioning but he's got got to do more than that. mitch mcconnell said that criminal justice reform was dead. president trump used his political power to get that passed. is he going to show the same kind of sustained leadership or is this just going to be another speech undercut by a tweet hours if not days later? >> david urban, i get that people make mistakes -- go ahead. >> to john's point, has the president uttered words or phrases, one condemning white supremacy and calling this domestic terrorism. and those were important steps because those were words that people hoped to hear yesterday, calling on the president to call out definitively. and he did do that there and i think credit where credit is due. >> it's very important to hear it over and over again for exactly what it is. you're right, echoing what his own fbi director christpher wray said very loudly in july. david urban, your response to that hearing it from the president, the question becomes what happens with action. and then to the toledo thing i get that people make mistakes, but dayton, ohio has just suffered a huge massacre and the president didn't seem to know where that took place in a state that he says he is so representative of. >> toledo, dayton, it's regrettable. i'm sure it's a slip-up and i'm sure the president is well aware it took place in dayton and not toledo. to the previous point you made about the president calling out white supremacists and this hate crime and terrible scourge that is affecting our nation, look, i think i heard him saying that he's asking the attorney general and the fbi to kind of focus on it and crack down. i suspect you will see it further more -- this is something that obviously rav ijs america. no one is america is proud that this is happening on our shores. timothy mcvay blew up the office building in oklahoma city. it's a terrible thing. we should attack it like we attack isis. it should be just as big a focus, internal terrorism. and our law should be fixed. there are numerous problems with fbi and their powers, what they can and can't do with terrorism on our own shores. that would be all eliminated to make sure that americans are safe in their homes and places of worship and don't have to fare these type of things. there are gaps in our laws that need to be remedied. >> nia, we're hearing from other -- go ahead, congressman. >> we watched the president of the united states go to a rally and the audience was there and they started chanting "send her home, send her back" and then the president the next day said i didn't tell them to say that. he actually stepped away from it. and i said wow, maybe he's seen something and he's walking away and he's going to change course. and you saw what happened one day later. one day later it was like, hey, i can't control them. maybe they'll say it again. so we've watched this president. he cannot stop. he knows only one way, one avenue, one road to the reelection -- to his reelection as president of the united states, and that is to continue to pit us one against the other, and to continue his ugly hate-filled language against immigrants. he's not going to change and the congress of the united states is not going to unchain themselves from the nra. until we do that, we will not save america and make it a better and safer place. >> nia, i would like to get your reaction to senator cory booker who his main issue in this campaign has been gun control and he's even called out some of his fellow democratic contenders for the presidency to not go far enough on gun licenses. his campaign manager just tweeted what senator cory booker just wrote calling it a b.s., such a b.s. soup of ineffective words as he listens to the president. we should quickly condemn his lack of a real plan. nia. >> i think the president has made his feelings on all of this known for the last many years. in some ways this speech was superfluous. i don't think it's going to remain in terms of any sort of focus on any of the issues he talked about, whether it's white supremacy or gun control or whether it's mental health or video games. this was a speech that he sort of felt like he had to give. there was a big void there. i don't think anybody was necessarily clamoring tohear from the president on any of these issues because we know where he stands on these issues. we know what he has seen -- what he's talked about when he talks about immigrants coming to this country. we've heard him talk about an invasion and talk about killers and rapists. so the idea that now he can talk about white supremacists in one speech in the oval office, i don't think he's going to use his bully pull pit to go after white supremacists in the way that he's gone after immigrants. so, you know, i didn't really expect much from the speech. i don't think it has much staying power. i think what does have staying power is what we've seen from this president already in his speeches and on his twitter account and we've seen in many ways republicans either through their silence or through their echoing his words as well, essentially rally around this president and the ways he wants to be racially divisive and we see the ways in which it really matters in this country and the ways it can lead to violence. >> the words matter and we know they matter because they're often oechoed by people who cary out acts of violence. i want to reference a particular one. this from a trump rally in may of this year in panama city, florida. have a listen to this and how the crowd responded. i want to get your reaction. >> how do you stop these people? >> you shoot them. >> that's only in the panhandle you can get away with that statement. >> if you couldn't hear it there, the president said how can you stop these people. he's talking about immigrants. and the crowd chanted shoot them. the shooter that came here to this walmart in el paso came targeting mexicans, he said. he came to shoot them. does the president's rhetoric matter in that context, wes lowery? >> of course it does. >> it matters. it matters a lot. he's the president of the united states that said famously, infamiliar isly, that he could shoot number on 5th avenue and nothing would happen to him. this is the president of the united states at his own political rallies that calls upon his supporters to use violence and says don't worry, i've got the bond money and lawyer to get you out of jail. this is the president of the united states that began his presidency by demonizing latinos and immigrants, by lying about us and by continuing his lie about other sectors of the american public. so look, words matter a lot. but pi have to repeat that we'r going to be back here in a couple of weeks and i am not hopeful. we cannot protect our children, 4, 5, 6 year old children in grade schools and middle schools. we see them assassinated and mowed down and we do nothing to expect our children. what do we expect the president of the united states to do? protect immigrants? i doubt it. i don't believe it. >> congressman, we appreciate your passion on this and all of you. this is a difficult conversation. david, i know you were taking some hard questions here. this is a conversation america needs. we're going to continue to have it as best we can. poppy and i thank you. >> we thank you and we promise you, jim and i, that we will stay on this. we can guarantee you that. we hope lawmakers do as well. thank you for being here. jim, great reporting on the ground there. thank you so much. i'm poppy harlow. 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