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federal court. the bottom line is, he is toast! there is nothing he can do -- [laughs] >> i was gonna say screwed. there is a consistency problem here. you can say many times, in public, on television, there was all kinds of things in those boxes. i dont know what was in those boxes. so its very hard to get from -- at and have any idea what was in the boxes, to, i know they planted things. do you agree with that? >> i completely agree. judge dearie is a no nonsense judge. hes not going...

And murderers. these are bad people that he has obviously was in business with, and the other thing that is happening here is that his identity, the identity of his family. and i actually think that this ripples out to the self concept of all of those followers. its all crumbling. and this is devastating to them as people, but also a public figures and business leaders. >> yes, and i listen, michael, just sitting here listening to these three gentlemen, the gravity of this, and the reality settl...