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March 24, 2019
Ultimately is something that would become -- that would become publicly available or be at least briefed to congress in some way, presumably any ongoing criminal investigation that -- that was referred to in those large redactions in that scoping memo, eventually those criminal cases get finished. eventually those things get done. if its an intelligence matter and not a criminal matter, does adam schiff on the intelligence committee tonight have a point when he says regardless of criminal cases,...
March 24, 2019
Made public, and if we need to do so by redacting information, then we do that. if we can declassify information in the interests of transparency and not sacrifice sources and methods, then we can do that too. >> what are you going to do if barr says no? if william barr says this report has been submitted to me, i have the one copy of this report, i believe that the principal conclusions should be briefed and as far as im concerned the principal conclusions are these are the people that have bee...
March 24, 2019
All of your colleagues on that committee deal with very sensitive information all the time, and there are protocols for those -- for that committee that there arent for any other part of congress because of the sensitivity of material that youre -- with which youre entrusted. given that, given your training in that matter, given your experience with that, given how seriously you take that, i wonder if theres anything you can imagine might be in this report that really cant go broadly to congress...
March 24, 2019
Judiciary committee when the judiciary committee was run by republicans. so theyve set the precedent. if the justice didnepartment doesnt release the whole report or tries to keep parts of it secret, we will certainly subpoena the parts of the report, and we will reserve the right to call mueller or to testify before the committee or to subpoena him as several other committees might do. well only do that if necessary, obviously. the important thing is that the entire report be made public and th...
March 24, 2019
Even while that investigation was ongoing. so yes there could be very small things, but i think the most important point is this investigation began as a counter intelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation. it went to look at the question of whether people were acting as agent s of a foreign power. that information needs to be made public, and if we need to do so by redacting information, then we do that. if we can declassify information in the interests of transparency and not sacr...
March 24, 2019
Its hard for me to figure out what leverage could be used against him. >> well, congress has considerable leverage, and certainly we would begin by requesting the voluntary production, the information, and then move to subpoenas and then move to court enforcement, and then think about other means of pressuring the department to be transparent, but it will be unsustainable for the justice department to take that position. in the last congress, rachel, the justice department provided over 880,000 ...
March 24, 2019
Things ill be looking for there is, you know, its easy to say were going to second up the key findings from muellers investigation on the matters that were assigned to him. as you know rachel, we dont actually know what was assigned to robert mueller. we know trump russia broadly and an issue related to paul manafort, but remember from a few months ago theres this blacked out portion of the memo that designated the scope of muellers investigation, and the public really has never seen that blacke...
March 24, 2019
And whether trump and his campaign were in on that. right? there has never before been a president -- i mean, theres never been a higher -- not since the 1700s has there been a high ranking government official who was -- who was investigated for potentially being in the thrall of a foreign power. are we going to find out what robert mueller found out when he investigated that core issue? it depends on what william barr thinks about long standing practices and policies in the justice department a...
March 24, 2019
Im not sure its going to happen as quickly as we all might like. theres a bunch of things that i can imagine are in the scoping memo, or even in the mueller report, which i presume will be quite thorough and voluminous that we cant see yet. congressman schiff spoke about classified information, sure it can be redacted. sure it can be declassified, theres good reason in some cases not to do that. or at least not to do in a yet. the other types of information that we may not see at least not immed...
March 24, 2019
Im just going to sit on all of the rest of it. presumably subpoenaing the report, subpoenaing mr. mueller himself, subpoenaing other people involved in the investigation, ultimately those subpoenas get enforced through the justice department, dont they? i mean, if william barr decided that he was going to dig in his heels and let none of this out, its hard for me to figure out what leverage could be used against him. >> well, congress has considerable leverage, and certainly we would begin by re...