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And out of favor, but in her case i think her fate is very much tied to chief of staff john kellys fate. hes the one that wanted her in that position and is responsible for putting her there, and hes her closest ally. to the extent that his relationship with the president has failed, it has put -- not failed, but frayed, it has put her on shakier footing. >> nick miroff, great to you, great reporting. >> reply pleasure. good to be with you. >> paris dennard and symone sanders with me now. paris,...