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good enough for rupert murdoch s local fox channel. that is tonights last word, the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. >> tonight, the georgia grand jury report on the trump investigation. what it says about witnesses possibly lying under oath. what it could mean for the former presidents allies. then, president biden addresses those unidentified objects shot down over north america, the questions remain about dealing with this in the future. kevin mccarthy heads to the u.s. me...

what it says about witnesses possibly lying under oath. what it could mean for the former presidents allies. then, president biden addresses those unidentified objects shot down over north america, the questions remain about dealing with this in the future. kevin mccarthy heads to the u. s. mexico border. democrats call it theater, while the real need for real solutions remain. the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night. good evening im alicia menendez in for stephanie ruhle. w...

Meacham, hes the rogers chair at the american presidency in vanderbilt university. occasionally advises president biden on historical matters and major speeches. hes also the author of and there was light, abraham lincoln and the american struggle which is up now. jon meacham in the flesh. thanks for staying up late for me. i know youre worried about this, how worried are you? >> the issue is going to be, does an attempted coup against the constitution become just another talking point? just ano...

I know youre worried about this, how worried are you? >> the issue is going to be, does an attempted coup against the constitution become just another talking point? just another thing, well, fake news. theyre trying to tell you this is important. its not. they were martyrs, theyre just really angry people. i think one of the things we have to watch, as trump continues to run again, you have nbc polling i think nbcs reporting polling, stronger than the chattering classes wanted him to be. we hav...