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ayman wilkie dean and new york, we are continuing to follow the tragedy out of allen, texas this hour. police reports are -- at an outlet mall just north of dallas. and moments ago, local officials made a very brief statement saying a police officer and an unrelated call at that mall heard shots ring out at about 3:36 pm local time. officials are confirming there are casualties, they have not yet released the exact numbers on those dead, or injured. police also say theys believe the su...

Unspeakable tragedy. we are going to, as we mentioned, bring you all the information that we get as it happens. joining me right now is msnbc national security analyst and former assistant eric for counter intelligence at the fbi, frank figliuzzi. emerson dc long forsman analyst, carmen best. and clint watts, msnbc national security analyst and former fbi special agent. let me just recap quickly what we just heard there, frank, from both the allen police department and the fire -- island fire ch...