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Getting the cash up front and giving away the house. theyre losing general election votes by the way theyre campaigning. michigan 18 points down to the president. >> absolutely. because when he first stepped into the state it became a conversation about the auto bailout and he immediately was on the defensive. remember, one of the romney arguments was he was the only guy running that could expand the map. because he was going to put michigan in play which hasnt been in play since arguably since ...

Arguments was he was the only guy running that could expand the map. because he was going to put michigan in play which hasnt been in play since arguably since bush 88 and youre down 18? i mean -- >> thats what mccain lost by. >> so okay. maybe he can cut it to single digits, but if you are not expanding the map then thats resources saved. look -- >> is that the pattern that weve seen in this sort of scorched earth policy of negative, negative, negative? as they go through the states, is the rep...