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Mind, you were presenting this to mr. martin with what idea? what did you want to accomplish by presenting this to mr. martin and having him listen to it? >> for my own clarification to make sure that everybody had it correct. or at that point. information that i had was correct. >> and did that information -- did mr. martins response fit into the other information you already had available? >> at that point in time, yes, sir. >> and to the extent that he said no, you understood that to be what?...

Help. >> so with that information in mind, you were presenting this to mr. martin with what idea? what did you want to accomplish by presenting this to mr. martin and having him listen to it? >> for my own clarification to make sure that everybody had it correct or at that point that the information i had was correct. >> did mr. martins response fit into the other information you already had available? >> at that point in time, yes, sir, it did. >> and to the extent that he said no, you understo...