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The same revenue or more revenue, thats a win-win for everybody. the sort of policy everybody stands up and ann plauds for. the devils in the details. ive asked people what loopholes are you willing to close to make that possible? it only workings if you close off awfully big loopholes. so lets go through a couple. the biggest ones out there, mortgage tax deduction for home own owners. is that something you would be willing to close? >> all to your point incredibly important and incredibly serio...