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intent and so a lot of times the evidence that comes in against an impeachment is going to be used to show his intent and his fraudulent intended that the truth here is that his credibility he's going to be the key& here if i were on the defense team, i obviously be trying to convince him not to testify because he's a wildcard and you just don't know what he's going to be saying so but yours look at all kinds of nuanced behaviors in order to be able to judge credibility and his character is going to be on trial here as much as the documentary evidence meanwhile, the prosecutor may my mouth pavlovian type, salivated at the thought of a defendant taking the san probably for the opposite reasons, you're actually speaking about, but the defense, they only need one juror, richard to have some doubts. so who do you think trump's attorneys are now eyeing as potentially sympathetic to their case? >> well, the gut you're number two, who i think they're looking at. obviously, here's the gentleman who follows trump on on, on truth social. he

and second of all, if so, was the campaign finance violation, the actual motivation. and then there's other juror number to the fact that he follows donald trump on social media and michael cohen doesn't really tell me all that much. i mean, following donald trump's certainly does not mean you support donald trump. it means you want to see what the then-president, now former president has to say, having read the art of the deal, a lot of people read it. it's been around a long time, but i think the overall profile suggests yes, to me, somebody who might be sympathetic with the defense overall. >> that's a good point, richard, let me ask you about the emotions that were on display. you saw the weight of the moment, some some jurors got emotional. one of them who was a smith told the court, i have to be honest. i feel so nervous and anxious right now. i'm sorry. i thought i could do this, but i would not i want someone who feels this way could judge my case. so what are the chances that one of the alternates might eventually have to step in and if they do, who chooses, which alternate will do is just an order i

your question there and then we'll reach out to have you call in as the trial unfolds. >> let's get to our first color. tonight. we got marcus from batavia, illinois. hey, marcus, what's your question? >> episodically, if the trial begins in earnest, but the jurors and ultimate began to feel intimidated. an exit what happens next? >> that's a really good question. i want to bring in android consult richard gabriel back in to help answer that for you. this is the big question that every attorney has and they're thinking about right? it's a big challenge. obviously, the judge, i think he's going to try to protect them as much as possible. he's already made them anonymous, but that being said, people find out about them being on the trial. so if they do feel intimidated, i think there's gonna be admonishments to the press is going to be a management is to both sides. but in the most extreme circumstance, i guess he can talk about sequestration and actually say, let's let's protect these jurors. let's try to get them to secure location. it's a nightmare, but it

honig also jury consultant. >> richard gabriel is here as well. gentlemen. thank you both for being here. we know that this trial is going to begin an ally. let me begin with you, because the prosecution says they intend to call their first witness. of course, after opening statements. but on monday, but that they won't tell trump's team who that person will be until the day before. so what will the prosecution really be looking for out of whoever their first witness is going to be well, you want to start a safe and you want to start strong, laura, you don't want to you're certainly not going to put michael cohen up there. let's put it that way to start off. >> you want to this is your first time you're really showing any evidence to the jury. >> and so you want to give them somebody who establishes a bedrock foundation of your case. so i suspect it might be a witness through whom they can get in some of the financial records. for example, we know that a key part of this case was the fact that donald trump reimbursed michael cohen through a series of 11 checks.

or next business day. and defense lawyers need to know that because they have a witness list with dozens and dozens of names, but they need to know who they're prepping to cross-examine on monday and because the judge doesn't trust donald trump and because maybe to some extent his lawyers are wary of what he'll do the lawyers now don't have that ability to fully prepare in advance in a very cheered on that 0.2. and i think about that as perhaps necklace was saying, look, if you tell me i can't tell my client, then it's easier for me when i tell my client i'm not going to tell you because i'm not sure what you're going to do with the information. richard, judge merchan is deciding which prior trump the court cases or what they call a category of like bad acts can be used as evidence at the trial. so how could evidence like this effect a jury? it's obviously not intended to prove this particular case, but it's useful nonetheless well, lauren and le, been one of the main key issues is going to be in this case, has to do with his