say they are the face of our party. we have a diverse party, lots of points of view and i think that s fine. neil: you ve been known as a fellow who tries to work with the other side even the sides within your own party but that almost seems to be a cliche today. i don t mean to minimize or criticize you, sir but i m remindsed of the grief that joe biden got for simply saying that the vice president of the united states is a decent guy and he had to dial that back. do you worry about the tone getting worse even within your own party? i worry about it no matter where it comes from if it comes from folks within my party i m certainly willing to talk to them and call them on it, and when it comes from the president or somebody else, i think we have to do the same. i think, neil one of the things that gets confused is that we can have really fundamental differences, policy differences, and we can have really spirited arguments but i think where our country is getting off the rails is the
different times different presidents, different approaches , but a rough start doesn t mean in the end a failed approach let s go to the former assistant secretary of state under president george h. w. bush robert charles secretary good to have you. thank you. neil: many have read into that failure to secure a deal, that it was a waste of time. what do you think? well, analogies can be over drawn but this one, i think, maybe closer than people realize and in 1986 ronald regan did walk out, and what came out of that was a series of breakthroughs not war because for the first time, he really realized that reagan meant what he said he was not going to give up the traffic defense initiative and once the two men baselined each others points of view and they had a summit one year earlier that was not very successful they were at an impasse all of a sudden things were very hopeful and then they crashed and what happened after
they are excited and somebody is fighting for hit and if he convince 5% more people the problem for democrats antjuan, is like a heavy [laughter] [inaudible] the problem is that it actually worked, it actually won the states a republican needs to win in order to win the presidency and democrats neil: but he s trailing, not that it means to antjuan s earlier point. he s trailing in a lot of the state that is look the electoral map, that could change. guess what, the electorate is different. you saw what happened in the midterms in some of the places that he did well, democrats have really put a footprint, you look at wisconsin, we have the
neil: they have different degrees the impulse to jump on the liberal band wagon. that s not true. you will see that till next year. neil: you think that democrats gave republican a gift? it s a huge gift. you see aoc. you look at it in terms of cannibalism, democrats aren t running out of food. i don t think it s a gift at all, i think it s a mistake that the republicans think it s a gift. the democrats are setting agenda and we are responding to it and that s not good. neil: why wouldn t they get out there right away, if you don t like donald trump and if you don t like republicans, look at the alternatives, that approach in this environment with a strong economy, low unemployment rate
technology. neil: make america broke again. same thing they did in 2008 when barack obama neil: a lot of the policies the policies are a little bit scary. the point is people need to be educated what the problems are with down falls. i don t think it s the right approach republicans to be taking right now. the idea it s too expensive is not going to resinate, my health care doesn t work now and you didn t fix it. having people like sebastian gorka personalizing trying to take away hamburgers and suv s, you laugh about it, sure, does that rile people up? to[inaudible] i have seen this move before. democrats, it s the same play book.