so what happened to her? the prosecutor would have to find out. and that s when she set out to follow a trail that led to a man in georgia and jar rold johnson, a judge now. but back in 1999 a rookie detective. it really shocked me i was getting a case in california. had you forgotten all about that case? no, sir. i actually over the years, i have thought about that case many times. the case, an auto accident in the fall of 99, an accident that killed the first mrs. winkler, kathy. my father called me that night and told me that kathy was no longer with us. reporter: what was that like for you? it hurts. it still hurts. reporter: so many years later, charles still smarts from the loss of his big sister
stand, they found something else, too. something quite unexpected. this blue box. inside? ashes. what? at the bottom of the box was a label that simply said, cremated remains of catherine lynn winkler. and now, suddenly, there were two mysteries to solve. what really happened in the winkler baby s blood-stained bedroom? we re realizing, wait, there was a former wife? reporter: oh yes there was. todd winkler had been married before. and clearly, his ex-wife was dead. so, what happened to her? no choice, decided prosecutor suder, she would have to find out and that s when she set out to follow a trail that led to a man in georgia, named gerald johnson. a judge now, but back in 1999, a rookie detective. it really shocked me that i was getting a call from california about a case that i
lynn winkler. and now, suddenly, there were two mysteries to solve. what really happened in the winkler baby s blood-stained bedroom? and more than a decade and two thousand miles away, what was the ugly truth that burned on the mountainside in georgia? we re realizing, wait, there was a former wife? and that was just the beginning. to follow a trail that led to a man in georgia, named gerald johnson. a judge now, but back in 1999, a rookie detective.
cremated remains of catherine lynn winkler. and now, suddenly, there were two mysteries to solve. what really happened in the winkler baby s blood-stained bedroom? and more than a decade and two thousand miles away, what was the ugly truth that burned on the mountainside in georgia? coming up, someone was keeping secrets. big secrets. we re realizing, wait, there was a former wife? so, what happened to her? no choice, decided prosecutor suder, she would have to find out and that s when she set out to follow a trail that led to a man in georgia, named gerald johnson. a judge now, but back in 1999, a rookie detective.
discussion when corsi was joined by those other mueller probe witnesses speaking out on the beat, making news on all sorts of things, including roger stone and what mueller prosecutors want to know find it sunday wherever you get your podcasts. that it for me check out the beat at 6:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. do you have one that got away he s just my first love except in her case, he really disappeared. he s going to call me in a couple of days he never called. his family in agony i sent his letters to oprah winfrey, to america s most wanted . a rookie detective finally broke the case i said, oh, my gosh, i think i ve hit pay dirt. a strange phone call revealed a secret david needed to be gotten rid of then we got the real story. a bombshell revelation. was she really a bereaved ex