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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190318:06:54:00

reporter: little nervous? a father to him, yes. reporter: or or the way but he reporter: but the way it was described later was more like you were a mother to him. i mean, you were well, yes, that was his own his own words. daniel worried about nathan, he said. saw early red flags in nathan s behavior toward this first girlfriend of his. nathan, he said, seemed obsessed with shelley. maybe dangerously. i started to notice that nathan had missed his classes. and finally, i talk to shelley s roommate, ashley, and what she told me shocked me because from her own words, nathan was actually stalking shelley everywhere she goes. and after shelley was murdered, he said, he saw scratches on nathan s body. which, in fact, the police had noticed, too. and then daniel added something very interesting he picked up nathan from school on thursday night, that s the day of the killing. it was more than 12 hours before shelley s body was discovered,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190318:06:33:00

the living room to her bedroom. and then one from her bedroom to the bathroom. reporter: into the bathroom. correct. reporter: and ashley claimed that door was closed. yes. reporter: you wouldn t buy that? no. reporter: your first reaction when she said that she hadn t checked on her, hadn t seen her. she lived a bathroom away from this girl. what else can you say? it s weird. it s not natural. it s not normal. you know, if i m if i have a roommate in such a small apartment, if i don t see em i m definitely gonna hear em. i m certainly gonna communicate to em. and with two girls you would think that bathroom would be tied up all the time. reporter: did you suggest that the possibility existed that these two girls didn t like each other and sometimes girls can be pretty you know she ashley told me that they didn t have arguments but they had disagreements. and i asked her what she meant by disagreement and she said, well, just girl stuff. you know? not fi

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190318:07:18:00

her? over a dude? i didn t you hated her that much, that she took nathan away from you, that much, that she caused you so much problems in your personal relationship, that the only answer was to kill her. that s it? reporter: two days after that interview, it was, once again, ashley s turn to talk. and she also revealed something she had not said before. remember, it was quite apparent that whoever killed shelley must have had a key to her apartment. there was no sign of forced entry. well, now ashley told the detectives that a month before the murder, daniel borrowed her car. which would have been neither here nor there, except the key to her apartment was attached to her car keys. you know if he made a copy of it? no, but now that my it s a possibility that he it s the only time i remember i ever loaned my keys to somebody. because i always have my keys.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190318:06:56:00

he was very bright, friendly, eager to help anyone out. he you know, he was he was that kinda he was that guy that a lot of people knew. and he would walk into, say, the student lounge, and other everybody would be like, hey, it s daniel, you know. reporter: hmm, nice guy? yeah, very nice guy. a nice guy who was telling detective ellzey he was troubled about nathan. and then, when the detective dug a little deeper among other people who knew nathan, he began to hear a different take on the kid who was supposedly too shy to kiss his girlfriend. some people would describe him as a little bitty, scrawny kid, kind of introverted who just lived and breathed his artwork. other people would say, the guy had a temper. ashley said she d heard the same thing. one of my friends would say just like you know, i would never want to see nathan angry and i asked him, why? and they said, have you ever seen him play a video game? because he just kind of pops if he doesn t

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190318:06:11:30

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190318:06:11:30
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