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>> martha: you look at the things that mccarthy said he wants to do. certainly securing the border is on that list. making the country more energy dependent is on that list. the fiscal responsibility piece is the one that is a question mark. it appears that on both sides, you can go back decades in this. on both sides, people seem to be happy to go from budgets that are millions and trillions and not care about what happens so much after they sign those bills. >> i told this story earlier. i don...