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One source i spoke to who has seen the intelligence says he does not see the clear divisions between moderates and extremists that kerry suggested and he also said that members of congress will see some of this same intelligence later today when they get those classified briefings. chris? >> chris, thank you very much for the reporting. we bring in former defense secretary donald rumsfeld, the author of "rumsfelds rules." thank you for being here. pleasure to have you. perception often reality i...

Chance to read it but i saw the clip that you just showed. he mentioned the possibility of a judicial board of approval of some kind. i would personally -- we do that for some things now. a fisa board. we go to the courts and ask permission. i personally think going to the congress and discussing it with them and getting them onboard for some policy that makes sense to the american people so that he has that kind of support. hell need it. >> lets talk about this book "rumsfelds rules." first of ...

Side of that argument but the idea that he is still in charge of the government, has accountability and has to project accountability as we ask all presidents to do. >> in the irs case it doesnt seem passive. wonderful king strauss of the wall street journal was correct. the president wasnt passive on that. he was giving final word to people who could launch this thing. >> in this scenario hes in a no-win situation. if he had gone into this faster, people would say hes intruding into a separate ...

Executive branch, to be told about things that are going on that are bad. and you cant kind of say, oh, that happened last year and theyre investigating. you need to stop the bad things right away. >> and the difficulty is this criticism of passivity, as you all are suggesting, and im challenging you with the other side of that argument but the idea that he is still in charge of the government, has accountability and has to project accountability as we ask all presidents to do. >> in the irs cas...

Came from then -- these are pure hypotheticals, how serious would that be? >> i think that the currency a president or leader has is trust. and as its eroded away, it hurts. i think the president said he learned this from the press. and i think the press spokes mapp said the white house had known about it two weeks. >> eric holder didnt know what his department was doing at all, apparently. its all a bit odd. >> he said he recused himself and i dont know why he did. >> there is no apparent evide...

Benghazi, or about the irs, for example, if it turns out senior white house officials knew more than theyre saying about what was going on and the original idea to target the tea party came from them, these are pure hypotheticals, how serious would that be? >> i think that the currency that a president has, a leader has, is trust. as it is incrementally eroded away, it hurts. i think i heard the president say he heard about this from the press. and i think the press spokesperson said that the wh...

That be? >> i think that the currency a president or leader has is trust. and as its eroded away, it hurts. i think the president said he learned about this from the press. and i think the press spokesman said the white house had known about it two weeks. >> eric holder didnt know what his department was doing at all, apparently. its all a bit odd. >> he said he recused himself and i dont know why he did. >> there is no apparent evidence he did do that. they cant find the paperwork. its all very...

Killed. and is that bad? well, no, i think theyve been given a chance. and the people that have served there have done a good job. they have tough neighbors, the taliban is going to try to come back in, is it going to be a smooth path for them? no, but they had elections, they picked a president, and the countrys vastly better off. the taliban were using the soccer state yuchl stadiums the using to cut off people not to play soccer. is it perfect? no. >> in rumsfelds rules, what rule would you h...

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This administration was looking to go into iraq on the pretext of what happened on 9/11. not having that pretext they had it and wanted to use it. as rahm emanuel would say dont let any crisis go unexploited. >> ill reserve total judgment until ive seen the whole book and read it. what ive heard im struck by the rich irony. this is classic donald rumsfeld. anybody that knows this guys history knows hes the guy who wrote "rumsfelds rules" back in the 1970s, this machavellian guide to scheme on ho...