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Former senior aide to president obama, also a former chief counsel to the senate judiciary committee. also david corn, washington bureau chief of "mother jones" and political analyst. natasha ber tranand following russs involvement in the 2016 u.s. presidential election. thank you all. im going to start with you, natasha, for a top line on what were hearing now and, you know, what i was talking to rachel about a little bit. does it feel like rather than the beginning of a story the crest of a to...

The house intelligence committee looks like a circus, i reported last week they barely have enough staff to do anything they say what theyre doing and who knows whats happening. and indictments will concentrate the mind. >> yeah. absolutely. natasha, i think david makes an important minority here. for a lot of people watching this, russ-gate or collusion story, the collusion is sort of a sexy thing people talk about and the actual components of this investigation have involved a lot more sort of...

And looking at hillary clintons uranium deal and not her deal, going back and looking at how james dealt with the clinton e-mail server controversy, that really, nothing cuts through distractions like indictments. i mean, whatever is going on in the house intelligence committee looks like a circus, i reported last week they barely have enough staff to do anything they say what theyre doing and who knows whats happening. and indictments will concentrate the mind. >> yeah. absolutely. natasha, i t...

Talking about this and im sure youre having this conversation with your team, it did feel for 48 hours like something was happening because there was a level of hysteria of trying to push a narrative that was something other than russ-gate, russia-gate 2.0 and hillary clinton colluding and felt on the nose to be coincidental. i dont know if you felt that. >> we have seen a very aggressive dynamic at work which is not like its beenen visible before and way more aggressive and further this week wh...

Right? its now "the last word." >> once again, we cant go in with the plans we had. it is always getting blown up by trump himself. >> if you would like to borrow my intact show -- >> i think ill be -- >> which is not touched with the breaking news tonight, youre welcome to use it. >> i know. the one we had to import monday and lawrence can use it. >> we need to give the viewers little time machines to fit over the heads to go back to friday noon when a whole lot of other stories seemed importan...

Report and no other news organization confirmed it yet either. we can only go by what cnn is saying at the moment. according to sources, a federal grand your in d.c. today approved the first charges in muellers investigation. and joining us now, ron klain, a former senior aide to president obama, also a former chief counsel to the senate judiciary committee. also david corn, washington bureau chief of "mother jones" and political analyst. natasha ber tranand following russs involvement in the 20...