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Thats the complexity, and we have to keep in mind certainly the first priority is the defeat of isis. weve actually gotten very close. because theyre real priority is to get back to that fight against isis. >> matt, you said mentor mccain was on the in the last hour and was talking about hed like to see the elimination against more attacks against the syrian air force, eliminate their capabilities and creating safe joans. all of that seems unlikely, if its ever going to happen, until the battle ...

Of taking on russia and russian forces. and i find it hard to believe at this point that anyone in the united states would want to get in a shooting war with russia. and then youre talking about theres an end game issue here. once you get there, thats a whole different level. >> if youre not destroying all their aircraft, just shoot one down so you ground it and create these safe joans, if russia decides to challenge you in that, the risk of an escalation to matthews point is enormous. >> its hu...