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Its going to be a very difficult process to do it. >> martha: those who are running good programs should rise to the top. thank you very much, good to see was always. >> thanks, martha. good to be with you. >> martha: also developing this evening, as the president continues to double down on his feud with the nfl over national anthem protests, an arizona police officer brandon tatum has a simple message to those who are taking any. >> im sick of you athletes -- i was athlete! im sick of you tryi...