reagan administration where the reagan administration had real policy measures designed to confront the soviet union and deter soviet expansion all along the way they conducted very high value, bilateral negotiations which yielded arms control agreements that to this day are of value to us. if you don t have concrete policy measures, shoring up our allies with military support. if we don t insure that taiwan is such a hard target that china would never dream of attacking and same with ukraine we fail. sanctions won t work. it makes some in this administration makes them feel like they re doing something but it is not enough. dana: thank you so much for your thoughts this morning. the call with putin is underway now. bill: if you cut off international banking to putin and his cronies, if you cut off the construction of the in order stream pipeline the natural gas stops and the potential to go to western europe and germany in over
multiple i wways. with respect to russia, we know we have to follow the money. with respect to dealing with north korea, i think we have to stop the money. that will be one thing that i think president trump might discuss with president xi jinping about shutting down the flow of oil going through, shutting down the flow of money going through, and really taking away the economic cushion on which kim jong-un has been sitting along with his missiles. i think that is an approach to take. president putin said the sanctions won t work. i disagree with that. said they ll eat grass. i don t think so. i think today them eating grass with the notion we re waging an information campaign against them, sewing discord in north korea, i think there will be a different reaction. but i think the combination of economic really tough financial sanctions against north korea and combine that with a strategy we develop with china. that is the only solution i think that works. we see the president now hea
marine one, heading to north dakota to talk about tax cuts. but as he was leaving the white house and asked about it, a conversation he just had with president xi in china and david ignacio ignacious, he said when asked about military options, what to do next. clearly talking about this oil embargo that secretary cohen was saying is the main push right now with the u.n. what are thechance of not having china and rush stresia t that? it will be a tough move, north koreans are hardy people, but you can t run a war machine without any fuel. it is interesting and i think disturbing that president putin in russia is seeking in effect to get between the u.s. and china. as the u.s. seeks to move the economic pressure campaign forward, as an alternative to war, of vladimir putin is saying, sanctions won t work, don t try that, they ll eat
perhaps test another missile. all of these things are incremental important in the big picture. but i think significant is this intervention by president putin. he s been talking about north korea for a while. now he s saying it s a thinly veiled rebuke of president trump saying that the hisser tysteria north korea is senseless. vladimir putin talking about sanctions on north korea and comparing them to sanctions on russia. he is saying that he wants to see negotiation. but russia, and i m starting here pointing it out. it has a huge interest in all of this. in a sense, i guess, vladimir putin has a lot to gain and a lot to lose. rich hoard hoss has a questi. it shows you why sanctions won t work, and it shows you that mr. putin gets up every morning and wants to be a spoiler. and this is why, again, this
measures is over. enough is enough. what is left to do that hasn t been done over the last decade in terms of sanctions? nobody wants to go to the military option. if you have done almost all you can in terms of sanctions, what s left somewhere in the middle there that hasn t been tried and if it hasn t been, why hasn t it been tried over ten years? short answer is not a lot is left. you can cut down physically, but north korea has already begun to stockpile oil. you can try to cut off every financial flow. i think the history of sanctions shows that that won t work. there will alleges be outliars that get in there. there s black markets and gray market. north korea also is the most closed society in the world. they re willing to have their people starve if need be. they don t care. sanctions aren t the answer. is it a military response or nothing at this point? i think we re down to a binary choice. at some point things get simple, and now it s down to a binary choice. eithe