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Statement, my prepared statement the first time i recall hearing about the hack into the dnc. and i recalled that it had been some months before i was learning of this that the fbi and the dnc had been in contact with each other about this. and i was not very happy to be learning about it several months later, very clearly. >> well, theres two things i guess going on. dnc hack was at some point in time. what was the delay between the hacks that fbi was aware of -- who found the hacks to the -- t...

Cyber actors intruding into, infiltrating political organizations, political campaigns. thats what i was referring to. when i say that this effort was unprecedented, what i mean is that we not only saw infiltrations but we saw efforts to dump information into the public space for the purpose of influencing the ongoing political campaign. it was widespread. and in that respect -- we knew it was happening. in that respect it was very much unprecedented. >> can i just distilling your testimony, we ...

Statement, my prepared statement, the first time i recall hearing about the hack into the dnc and i recalled that it had been some months before i was learning of this that the fbi and the dnc had been in contact with each other about this. and i was not very happy to be learning about it several months later. very clearly. >> well, theres two things i guess going on. the dnc hack was, at some point in time, what was the delay between the hacks that fbi was aware of or who found the hacks or the...

We saw scanning and probing around voter registration databases, which concerned us greatly. as i think i stated in one of my public statements, probably the october 1 statement, in at least one to two instances, the effort was successful at an intrusion. there was a growing list and we saw the scope of this activity expanding as time progressed. and then eventually, in january, we were in a position to say that this activity itself was also the russian government. now, i too have seen the more ...

Fireman. how was that delay? >> my recollection is from open source reporting i read more recently. is that the fbi first discovered the intrusion. thats my recollection. >> intrusion of the state systems? >> into the dnc. >> okay. >> the -- and i recall very clearly that there was a delay between that initial contact with the dnc and when the report got to me as secretary of dhs. it may had been that there were others at the staff level in dhs who were privy to this before it filtered up to me ...

To attribute the scanning and probing to the russian government. we did say it was coming from a russian-based platform at that point. at that point, we told the public everything we believed we could dell them. im glad we did. the priority of informing the american people public -- >> mr. secretary, you mentioned that the statement you issued didnt get much attention because of the timing of "access hollywood." when it didnt get attention, why didnt the administration go further? why didnt the ...

A growing list of states where we saw scanning and probing around voter registration databases which concerned us greatly. as i think i stated in one of my public statements, probably the october 1st statement. in at least one or two instances the effort was successful at an intrusion. so, there was a growing list and we saw the scope of this activity expanding as time progressed. and then eventually in january we were in a position to say that this, this activity itself was also the russian gov...

To attribute the scanning and probing to the russian government. we did say it was coming from a russian-based platform at that point. but at that point we told the public everything we believe we could tell them. and im glad we did. so, the priority of informing the american public did override all of those other considerations, which is why we did what we did. >> mr. secretary, you mentioned the issue didnt get that much attention because of "access hollywood." why didnt the administration go ...

October seventh and publicly on january 6th. we saw efforts by russian intelligence at scanning and probing voter registration databases and we were concerned about it. thats why i encouraged all throughout august, september, october state election officials to come to us for cer security asstance in the department of homeland security. r the most part, they did. i was pleased with that. i uncovered a number of vulnerabilities which we helped them correct. it is the case that we see and we saw n...

Journalists. we are at a place where intelligence wont be shared because is not trusted that we wont leak everything. going forth with the unmasking, keep in mind, this is the same administration that targeted tea party members by the irs specifically for being tea party members. this isnt something i would put past them. for whatever reason, this specific story, which i think this is the watergate of our time if it ends up being true. its incredible the lack of attention and scanning. >> harris...