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December 28, 2021
The whole incident. you said not epstein. you know, the defense went to great lengths really to try to let the jury be persuaded by the notion that she was scapegoated and they were only prosecuting her because epstein was not available having killed himself prior to ever seeing his trial. do you think thats a successful notion the idea this is a scapegoat and somebody being brought in here because we couldnt get him? did they do a good job? are the questions eluding to that notion? >> i think s...
December 28, 2021
>> because they need to find a scapegoat for their failure. at this point, sean, i have no idea why anybody would listen to anthony fauci. he should have been terminated and fired from his position aio long time ago as soon as we found out that he funded the dangerous research that folks at the wuhan lab had access to. just on the account alone, he should have been fired as a private citizen, but he is apparently still in charge and called on to the shows despite his complete lack of wisdom on t...
December 28, 2021
After her. is that really a defense in itself? >> the defense as you said, yes, the defense is she is a scapegoat. that she was not criminally culpable for the acts that he committed. remember, she is charged directly on sex trafficking as well as enticing a minor to travel. the other charges relate to conspiracy meaning she was part of a meeting of the minds to engage in criminal activity. so what the defense is arguing is that she is not rising to the level of culpability of jeffrey epstein an...
December 28, 2021
The less likely a guilty charge is? >> the longer deliberations go on the better is in general for defense attorneys. defense attorneys want the jury to be grappling with credibility issues. here thats the crux of the defense case. yes, it is a better situation for defense attorneys. it also could be that we are going to see a hung jury. there is another alternative, too. remember, the jury doesnt have to convict on all six charges. we could see them parsing through and maybe have acquit alls, h...
December 28, 2021
Well. and theyve asked for clarification of a keyword in all of this. the word is "enticement." its one of the counts that maxwell faces about enticing young women to participate and be involved in sexual activities with jeffrey epstein. her attorneys have said shes a scapegoat. theyve questioned these womens memories. they say their motivation is money. all of this comes down to whether the jury believes these young women or not. again, its a very unusual deliberation in that theres been an int...
December 28, 2021
12 notes to the judge. at one point requesting a white paper board, colored posted notes and highlighter. two weeks of graphic testimony four women said they were underage when maxwell tricked them into being sexually abused by epstein. if she is found guilty she is facing 70 years behind bars. she pled not guilty. the defense says she should not be the scapegoat here just because prosecutors cant charge epstein and back in front of the federal court jury deliberations began an hour or so again ...
December 28, 2021
Then when it comes to the closing arguments, what stuck out to me from maxwells attorney. she said shes being tried here for being with jeffrey epstein and maybe that was the biggest mistake of her life, but it was not a crime. so they are trying to distance maxwell from epstein. is that even effective? >> i dont think it will be here. this is a we call the empty chair defense when you have some other figure sort of looming over the trial. the prosecutions argument is she was his right hand. she...
December 28, 2021
Saying she is a scapegoat isnt necessarily a defense. saying see is a scapegoat and the prosecution has to prove her role beyond a reasonable doubt, thats the defense in this case. >> benjamin: when we get that verdict youll come back and discuss it with us more. thank you for joining us today. >> absolutely. thank you. >> julie: the man accused of shooting and killing 24-year-old dylan mcginnis was reportedly out on bail for multiple felonies partially paid for by a nonprofit group. dylans moth...
December 22, 2021
Think the absence of jeffrey epstein makes it for a prosecutor more likely that the jurors will want to hold someone responsible, which means its good for the prosecution or might see her as a scapegoat? >> the evidence suggests all four victims testified they were under 18 when they met her. the prosecutor said in her closing statement that these girls ordinarily would have been creeped out by jeffrey epstein but ms. maxwell was older and seemed high class and she made it look like everything w...
December 21, 2021
Jury weighs whether Ghislaine Maxwell is an Epstein accomplice or scapegoat