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[ inaudible ] they are filing bankruptcy next week. >> sean: despite e-mails that clearly indicate that white house officials were engaged in the loan process, press secretary carney had this to is say today. >> there is standard operating procedure for the white house to get some involved in a loan by the department of energy? >> theres no evidence that the white house was involved in the loan this is the white house involved, because they werent. the white house was involved in trying to find ...

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Industries. we need a principled, fiscal conservative. perry has a proven track record. the mistake this country made when we elected, i know you and i didnt vote for him. the mistake we made is we elected a candidate who has never run aything. never balanced a budget. never made a payroll, no track record. >> sean: the biggest deal he ever did, i think i did bigger deals when i was a contractor going back in my earlier life than i think this president has ever had. let me ask you about why you ...

Make sure president obama is a one-term president. >> sean: on the presidentss jobs bill there is hardly any democrats who want to go along with it. massachusetts, liberal state. the candidate who was going to take on brown worked for obama, hand picked when asked if she would support the jobs bill. im not sure about that. it seems like the list -- distancing has begun. how problemmatic is that for him? >> it is huge. you cant blame them. he proposes stimulus part two, the same policies that don...

The sun to rise. >> sean: forget roosters and cross. how do -- how do they get into the white house? >> im shocked that in the bush white house and previous white houses -- >> sean: forget, i dont care -- [ talking over each other ] >> they said this deal shouldnt go forward. unanimously said this deal shouldnt be done. someone inside the administration grabbed this deal. decided to showcase it. this isnt conjecture and speculation. theres e-mail -- look we are both lawyers we deal with he have....

Last question, do you agree with karl rove and dick morris, two people that think that perry feeds to explain, no i want to save social security. romney hit him on this hard. because of what he wrote in his book. do you think he needs to change the way hes communicating the issue? do you think hes doing it effectively the way hes doing it? >> i think what he said monday -- hell have many more tunes to expand upon this. what he said -- more opportunities to expand upon this. >> sean: if they aske...

>> sean: lanny, wait a minute, way. the guy bundled money. the guy had access. i dont know many people -- you dont bundle half a million dollars for the president, you dont get if the white house four times before your company gets all this money. number two, you say they didnt have knowledge. the vice presidents office was given a note. we would prefer to have sufficient time to do our due diligence here. top democrats now show that on a -- look at -- in the best case scenario here, what you ha...

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Debate, 26 ideological questions, questions from the left or right with an ideological bent. out of 26 questions, how many do you think came with a left wing ideological bent? >> sean: none. >> 25. 25 out of 26. >> sean: all right perfect. >> now, that is fine, if you are going to play devils advocate. tim russert was good at that. thats not what tse questions are. they are not hardballs, they are spitballs. designed to trip you up. they are designed to make you look bad. if you are going to do ...