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Do with the republican party will be trying to modernize their message. i think the two parties are now trying to energize their base and get things done in washington. looking at two big issues. the tax reform, general disagreement there. >> how it goes. >> where they agree on things like corporate rate, and also immigration reform. >> stephanie, let me put it a slightly different way. how long does president obamas second term last? second terms dont last four years sometimes domestically. >> ...

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>> well, i think a lot of it has do with the republican party will be trying to modernize their message. i think the two parties are now trying to energize their base and get things done in washington. looking at two big issues. the tax reform, general disagreement there. >> how it goes. >> where they agree on things like corporate rate, and also immigration reform. >> stephanie, let me put it a slightly different way. how long does president obamas second term last? second terms dont last four ...

Looking at two big issues. the tax reform, general disgroedi disagreeme disagreement there. >> where they agree, and immigration reform. >> stephanie, let me put it a slightly different way. how long does president obamas second term last? second terms dont last four years sometimes domestically. >> they last four years, but theres a shelf life to what you can get done. >> yeah. >> paw team will start looking at the midterms quickly. >> this is his year. >> 2013 is an important year to get thing...

Spending as part of a deal. >> they dont think -- the president hasnt outlined the cuts in entitlements. this is where the political gamesmanship goes on their side. they sit there and say were taking all the heat on taxes, were eating our own in the base on taxes. you should have to eat your own in the base -- >> the president said he didnt want another fight, he wouldnt have another fight. he said he doesnt want another fight come february when we have to deal with the debt ceiling. what does ...

>> second terms dont last four years. >> right, right. >> no second term in the modern era has lasted four years. >> i know. >> it ends somewhere before two years. >> then you move into foreign policy. >> very quickly, chuck is right. if they get the tax rate increase on the wealthy, they declare victory and move on. we can argue debate that -- >> youre both educating me tonight. its about taxes. the president can win this one before christmas. thank you, chuck todd and chris cillizza. up next...

>> this is why i want you and chris on. what is the president hoping to get done? whats his time frame? does he believe in the cliff or does he think its a bungee jump? >> no, he truly believes in the cliff. he has been getting -- and hes getting economic warnings from his own team that say, dont believe the congressional budget office, which is kind of rosy about this, who says it would be a tough 2013 if we went over the cliff but things would get better. he is getting updates saying, no, no, ...

Cant home school his kids? no. no one thinks that. >> i never said this was about home schooling. >> george w. bush signed -- >> i want to give you a chance, john. effectively explain how the u.n. would intervene in the household or schooling matters affecting american citizens. how would they functionally do it? interfere. >> if the u.s. signs a treaty, theyre responsible for living up to that treaty and can enforce that treaty. what youre basically saying is why dont we sign the treaty and wel...

Gamesmanship goes on their side. they sit there and say were taking all the heat on taxes, were eating our own in the base on taxes. you should have to eat your own in the base -- >> the president said he didnt want another fight, he wouldnt have another fight. he said he doesnt want another fight come february when we have to deal with the debt ceiling. what does it mean? doesnt it mean anything when he says im not going to do that? >> in an ideal world for what he views as the role in governme...

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