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he did not do it. >> day four of the seditious conspiracy trial. >> trump should have acted, and just manned up to do it, but he didnt. >> tonight, new evidence of how hard the oath keepers pressed for a coup. congressman jamie raskin, on what it means for the committees final hearing. then, even new reporting suggesting the justice department thinks donald trump is, still, hiding documents. plus, new reporting that herschel walker urged his ex girlfriend to have a second abortion. joe...

Can think terrible things, and that donald trump should use violence to stay and office? you actually have to act, how hard is that threshold, it is that part of what you look again in this trial? >> well, i think you need the mens rhea, the intent. clearly, there was intent. it was all over these online communications they were having. then, you need forward motion, and the actual taking ups against the government. there is the engagement and violence, and i think we saw that as well. we dont h...