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Found a doctors note when going through his personal belongings at his apartment and the doctors note that was torn up and apparently never given to the airline he worked for, said he was unfit to work. so diane, to you first. what is the obligation that anyone in the medical community would have to reveal to an employer particularly when youre talking about a job, like being a pilot, and there are many lives in your hands, whats the obligation that a doctor might have to reveal that not count o...

I dont see that as a significant problem within that community, but within passengers it could be a different story if thigh knew. >> doctor though i wonder this system relies on self-reporting. is that a mistake? >> well let me say issue im not speaking for the faa, but an aviation medical examiner and private physician. its -- you know you rely on a patient, and as a physician for years, you rely on the party to come to you and tell you their symptoms. there is ownous on the medical examiner t...

Career that he had wanted his whole life its really a very difficult thing to come to terms with that. but i think the whole issue of how do you self report a problem and not have it be a strike against you in your career is very challenging, and so far we have very superficial responses to that. >> okay. all right. were going to talk with all of you later. i want to talk more about how standard is that self reporting. is that something that is commonly practiced here in the u.s. or is that some...

Captain or other flight crew members might not see anything. >> most businesses most industries if there is an employee who has a drug or alcohol problem not necessarily fire them, but they pull them out of important positions. they pull them out where their actions might affect other people, either in the company or outside the company. not so with pilots? >> well thats what the pilots union pretty much pushes for. and that is -- that is the case. but i mean, once you do that, red flags are thr...

But were going to have to start to see what are these people in these critical positions, what are they being treated for. and if there is a mental condition, thats the problem doctors have now, which is the whole hipaa thing, the privacy issue, hey what im getting treated for i dont want that to jeopardize my -- my career, so im not going to tell anybody about it. or, worse, im not going to go get treatment for it because that could do it. so, this whole things going to have to be a big discuss...

Pilot. of course a lot of what the doctor has to go on is the pilot him or herself has provide odd this form. after that once a pilot has his or her medical certificate, he or she is required to have a physical exam every year or twice a year if theyre over 40. beyond that though airlines basically rely on self-reporting or colleagues bringing concerns to superiors if they expect something is up. airlines say they will help any pilot that reaches out. but naturally pilots say they would fear for...

You have to look at what are the other emotions going on within that person to drive that motive to take a number of other people with them. is it rage? is it vengeance? is it hatred? does he have an ax to grind with certain population, with the airline, issues in his past. thats what we dont know and they never know. >> its been reported but not confirmed but reported in germany that at one point, he suffered from depression. but heres a question. the airlines rely on self-reporting. >> right. ...

And yet something clearly happened to him psychologically. >> right. >> megyn if i could -- oh go ahead. >> go ahead, kathleen. >> if its true that that break that he took had something to do with depression thats going to be very very interesting. because you know suicide is not just depression. its really rage turned inward. what he did was a very spiteful act of rage if this turns out to be true that he perpetrated this tragedy. be very very interesting to find out if theres any records on th...

Happened to him psychologically. >> right. >> megyn if i could -- oh go ahead. >> go ahead, kathleen. >> if its true that that break that he took had something to do with depression thats going to be very very interesting. because you know suicide is not just depression. its really rage turned inward. what he did was a very spiteful act of rage if this turns out to be true that he perpetrated this tragedy. so thats going to be very very interesting to find out if theres any records on that. any ...

Self-report something that was not caught in the tests, i was talking to the medical examiner about this, there is an extensive process when they go on the certain medications, because you are sidelined for six months for some situation, and then every three months more and more doctors to check on you as a pilot, and that steems to be a disincentive to self-report. >> well, certainly, it is, because now you have punishment, and it is punitive for you. >> and is it a big problem or outlier here?...