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Happened to him psychologically. >> right. >> megyn if i could -- oh go ahead. >> go ahead, kathleen. >> if its true that that break that he took had something to do with depression thats going to be very very interesting. because you know suicide is not just depression. its really rage turned inward. what he did was a very spiteful act of rage if this turns out to be true that he perpetrated this tragedy. so thats going to be very very interesting to find out if theres any records on that. any ...

Psychological testing. kathleen, is that a mistake? >> i dont think so. what test could it be? how could all these countries agree on what test we would use? i think its important that most carriers people know who the weak link is. people know that person that doesnt really fit the bell curve of being a pilot. >> they do? >> theres not a company you cant go to where pilots dont sit around and talk about the one or two pilots they wish the airline would get rid of. >> thats not good. >> i know. ...

Would be more opportunity to vet a person like this. >> interesting point that leads me to the next conversation about mental health screening. some reports are emerging that there was a depression issue with this co-pilot. "wall street journal" is going as far to say he had some sort of medical condition. we talk about the self-reporting with david soucie a moment ago and with justin green. self-reporting seems questionable if youre relying on the person themself to say hey, ive got an issue. o...

Crash. and this is the issue of self-reporting that we concluded with the faa medical examiner, and that is a policy that is broad as well. and maybe if you have these annual tests that are given, it is all up to the pilot the self-report a problem, and that seems to be a problem as well. >> well, it is a serious problem, but it has a lot of problems of how to change it, too. and if you look at the self-reporting, and thinking about it, say that the person is mentally ill. do they know that they...

>> well its -- thats a very good question. i think that the issues that are placed on the pilot with respect to a $25,000 fine if they lie. if there is an accident down the line they may not be insurable which is another issue these pilots need to keep in mind. theres no strict psychological screen. we ask general questions. how is their health? anything stressful in their lives? its the self-reporting thats so critical in this. >> lubitz began working for the company in 2013. part of the traini...

Becoming more recognizable whether we want it to be or not. what do you see as potential changes, not in place now meaning, that would help mine miz this risk. >> this is a relatively low risk. >> aviation safety is a zero sum gain. theres no acceptable rate of aviation accidents. pilots are screened observed by their fellow pilots one thing that is really important is that airlines encourage self-reporting. dont penalize people who take themselves out of the cockpit. encourage over pilots to sp...

Be flying a plane. and that doctor should have notified lufthansa of that. i also think lufthansa may have a problem because why werent they following up on these fitness reports that this pilot was apparently getting from time to time? why didnt they reach out to the doctor to get the fitness report? >> perhaps these reports were above and beyond -- he would be once a year because hes not even 40. >> well have to see. >> annual physicals by the time he gets to 40, he gets the six-month physical...

You think of the 16-year-olds on their way home from a school trip and how frightening it must have been for all these people. lets bring in our next guest. kathleen bangs is a former pilot and training instructor. as this sunk in what goes through your mind? >> just horrific. what goes through my mind is 10 years ago i wrote pane article called "the pilots that shouldnt be." it was to encourage airlines and pilots to start self-reporting. whatever company you go to there are always nut jobs. bu...

Mechanism, a self-reporting and confidential reporting mechanism by other people that they can report if they are concerned about it. that to me seems to be a far more satisfactory solution. yes, there will be lets be clear, there will be the occasion, the lone wolf the rogue case that comes out of it but you will not solve that i guarantee you, with setting up some massive structure of constant psychological screening. >> you can bet these companies -- >> to go along with what richards saying i...

And then from bill oreilly, this was in 2012. 123 and 326 were killed by koms and 123 white -- >> 123 blacks and 26 whites were killed by cops. but hes not doing it percentage wise. if you look it a, 12% of the population, he is not doing it by percentages. by total population. even yet when w those numbers, when you think it is only 12% of the population, thats still a large number. >> can i weigh in? i think when you really look at the statistics, they are really faulty. because when you talk ...