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Are mott moving toward the proper sense of justice that we can get out of the process that we have now put together with these military tribunals. >> i am just floored by that statement, joan. your response. >> im floored as well. although we should stop being floored, because they keep coming at us, ed, and weve got to stand up. but seriously, eric holder cant say what the outcome is. it is true, it sounds like weve got great evidence, it sounds like he would be convicted but thats the essence ...