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Him to feel like hes his only defender. >> so melissa, it appears you know despite whatever criticisms have come by way of the president, taylor, kent, yovanovitch, you know, vinman all have been unflappable. do you see the same for williams since her open testimony is upcou upcoming. >> certainly. these are career foreign service professionals. theyre testifying to a similar kind of feeling. that theyve watched everything thats going on in the state department and white house and this is highly...

Help trump. thats from may 9th in your newspaper. two days later after two days of hysteria including in republican circles, rudy giuliani cancels his trip to ukraine blaming democrats spin. well, rudy giuliani was running a campaign that was ultimately executed by donald trump. rudy giulianis under federal criminal investigation for his role in that. could trump be? >> well see. i mean, my colleague ken vogel is a great reporter and broke that story. he kind of caught the campaign mid-stride. a...