she told 9-1-1 that he shot the door at approximately 12:43 and 12:47 she asked 9-1-1 to please send the police now. at 12:46 she said she could not she could hear the police next door. at 12:50 shots are fired that can be heard over the 9-1-1 call. and at 12:51 it was loud and sounds like the officers are moving children out of the room. at that time the first child that called was outside before the call cuts off. additional information that we have is that there are 58 total magazines at the school that led to the crime scene. 11 of the magazines were inside the school. three were on the suspect s
barbershop got a phone call from his wife inside and she said come get me. there s an active shooter. that officer helped rescue people. there s still accountability that needs to go on here, and the bottom line is cannot allow something like this to happen again. it certainly with chiefs of police, this is a senior person making this decision at this scene, and it was as the director here said, it was the wrong decision. the words are haunting. i can t imagine how they feel. grateful for your reporting on the scene. from where i m sitting, the corporal saying of course it was not the right decision. it was the wrong decision. colonel, i m sorry. it was the wrong decision. there s no excuse for that. let s get perspective from two veterans of police work, a special agent peter lakoda along with anthony boricsteel.
12:15 there were tactical shields that had arrived here. the director of dps saying they wanted to wait for the tactical gear because of the gun power of the gunman. you had at least 15 officers and shields on scene yet you did not reach the door until 12:50. i said it before, first of all, when it comes to an active shooter, you don t have to wait on tactical gear. you got an obligation. do you what i know now, absolutely. it was an active shooter. keep in mind, in the doctrine of active shooters, you can transition from an active shooter situation to a barricaded subject or a barricaded with hostage subject. if shooting continues and you have any reason to believe there are individuals alive you have
it s imperative on the public when you get something, just because it sounds like he s a nut, he may be, but he may be intended to do, i read the timeline based on the chats he had. so we need everyone we have a threat to life like that, to take it seriously and report it. because ultimately, this is tragic. what do you tell the 19 the parents of 19 kids or the families of two teachers? yeah. reporter: tactical gear, you had at least 15 officers in shields on scene. yet, you did not breach the door until 12:50. i said it before. first of all, when it comes to an active shooter, you don t have to wait on tactical gear, plain and simple. you got an obligation. i know now. absolutely. it was an active shooter. because you can transition. keep in mind in the doctrine of
there was 19, like i said, there was 19 officers in there. in fact, there was plenty of officers to do whatever needed to be done with one exception is that the incident commander inside believed they needed more equipment and more officers to do a tactical breach at that point. that s why bortak was requested on the scene. as soon as they were there, they did a dynamic entry and went in. and of course, that was not until 12:57. hey, with the benefit of hindsight hey, stand by. stand by. hey, stand by. stand by. right? i got it. i got it. okay. hey, for the benefit of hindsight, where i m sitting now, of course it was not the right decision. it was the wrong decision, period. there s no excuse for that, but again, i wasn t there. i m telling you from what we know, we believe there should have been an entry as soon as