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More vulnerable because of the craft that they use in the water? >> surfers are well known to know that sharks occupy those waters and they -- they seem to have a very symbiotic relationship with the sharks. they know that they are there and surf because they feel a strong connection with the ocean and they understand what is going on. so its something that in south africa and australia and all of these areas that have seals and other things do understand quite regularly, you know. >> right. and...

Relations and do business with america they are going to have to. thats the strongest. the weakest is as charles krauthammer pointed out the clean energy deal. look, you have got to have a plan, mr. president. you just cant throw billions of dollars against the wall and say well, we hope something works sometime. we dont have any money here. the country is going toward bankruptcy. you cant keep doing that. if you have a plan, if you think wind will work or solar will work or fuel cells will work...

>> i dont think so. >> bill: you dont mock her. >> no but im not tough on her. >> bill: what other politicians have you mocked to the extent that you have sarah palin. >> probably hillary clinton. >> bill: you have mocked hillary clinton that much more than. >> hillary has been around longer. give sarah time i will catch up. >> bill: do you like her. >> i dont know her. im not crazy about the real america vibe i get from her. that gets under my skin. >> bill: you dont think she is real american....

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