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so they knew i, you know, would be observed. so, anyway, it was -- it was a frightening experience. c-span: whats the greatest source of material for you, in writing this book? >> guest: i always think my greatest source is the people i talk to. and, you know, that was -- as i say, was frustrating inside iraq. you had to do a lot of the interviews with people outside iraq. but i also think that its just sitting down and really looking at the tragedy of iraq from day one. its a -- its a...