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President can claim victory regardless of whether you have denuclearization. i think it is the one area where the president thus far has gotten some bipartisan support. americans say, yeah, he should meet with kim jong-un and that alone with a victory. it alone say victory to get those three hostages. >> verification, lets say the summit takes place and theres a lot of pomp and circumstance and it is a moment of history. how would you ever verify, negotiate first and verify anything approaching ...