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Neither is julian castro or kirsten gillibrand. kamala harris has law enforcement background. shes been a senator. she is worked on criminal justice reform. she brings, i think, to allow democrats what they see as someone who looks like she can stand on stage and go toe-to-toe with president trump. thats intangible, but i will say that just from people ive talked to so far she has run the best rule out of her campaign. >> harris: is it a missed opportunity -- and maybe she talked about this and ...

Finding a magic number, if you will, for a wall? i know nancy pelosi come the new speaker of the house, says no money for the wall. but calling it a slat system, having it built with american steel. how much of that is making a difference? real quickly. >> i think the democrats are at zero. the only conch dell not compromise their willing to accept is 100% of what they are asking for, as if they were of the government. you have a republican president, he republican-controlled senate for another ...

Come across the board. >> harris: all right, just really quickly, when the president was considering the six different prototypes for the wall, the slat system was on that. we had a reporter down there, we featured it. we knew. this is not breaking news in that sense. its fascinating that democrats are stuck on that point. but we will move on. so, democrats may pitch, mercedes, to the idea of more and more investigations with the president in the white house. what is the reaction from the white ...

Are making fun of a slat system. that is what it is. its one of the companies that submitted it. the president liked that slat system. to call something else? >> i do, i think youre right. i think the semantics are important. certainly, border security. ive been to the border come ive seen it firsthand. my first session appeared, had the opportunity to see. ive seen the rugged terrain in arizona. i have seen the shallow river and the rio grande in texas. ive also seen where our wall works. but i...