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Intelligence since 1993 and they have done an awful lot of very dark and brutal things. >> president carter said recently that omar suleiman was a guy he had been dealing with directly for quite a number of years. this leads me to suspect that he may be pulling all the strings anyway in egypt. so are we really in a situation where its just the same kind of thing and a different face? >> hes certainly not a new face to anybody whos followed things closely behind the scenes in egypt. and put it th...

This leads me to suspect that he may be pulling all the strings anyway in egypt. so are we really in a situation where its just the same kind of thing and a different face? >> hes certainly not a new face to anybody whos followed things closely behind the scenes in egypt. and put it this way, hes not what i would call change you can believe in. hes certainly not a democrat, small d democrat. and critics say hes been very closely associated with the torture of detainees in kind of terrible situat...

Anyway in egypt. so are we really in a situation where its just the same kind of thing and a different face? >> hes certainly not a new face to anybody whos followed things closely behind the scenes in egypt. and put it this way, hes not what i would call change you can believe in. hes certainly not a democrat, small d democrat. and critics say hes been very closely associated with the torture of detainees in kind of terrible situations in dungeons in the intelligence agency that he runs. >> but...

Behind them ready to take over the government of egypt and then all of a sudden we would have a much less stable government maybe spreading terror just in the neighborhood of israel and other key u.s. ally? so as much as the u.s. wants to stand up for human rights and the basic freedoms as you heard the president outline a moment ago in the youtube exchange, they have to be very careful about what comes next here, because as the president also noted, egypt has been a very e strong ally to the un...

Democratic leader. and the u.s. is obviously very uncomfortable with that. so they have to go through this through a number of layers, carol. >> stick with me, ed. developments are happening all the time. reuters reporting there is smoke coming out of of the ruling party headquarters in cairo. we dont know much more than that, but that is disturbing. president mubarak, i dont know where hes going to give his speech from, but we understand some of his family including his son has now fled the cou...

Hear from president hosni mubarak who has been the leader of egypt for almost 30 years. as he tries to come to grips with this crisis that is really a challenge to his authority, a challenge to his administration of a country that on one hand has made great progress, has seen some reforms but on the other still suffers under crushing poverty in some quarters. what is in effect right now? martial law. house arrest for the countrys top opposition figure. and just a short time ago, the latest drama...

Do? >> it was a campaign speech, like you said, contessa. that was a little bit surprising in this venue, the sort of self-proclaimed first national tea party convention. this is a movement that really rose up around issues, around fiscal conservativism and sarah palin gave a campaign speech, that addressed fiscal conservatism in part, but also religious conservative issues in a way i think caught some folks off guard. >> were talking about the tea party, a very democratic, small d, movement. he...

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Operating procedure. fox news did an experiment that failed. now cnn will do the same thing? cnn could put all the candidates on stage at once or if thats too many, they could randomly assign them to two. apparently cnn is planning on going ahead with this bad new kids table. all of the candidates should have some level of concern about this. this is really, this isnt hyperbole. this is really media outlet deciding who is allowed to compete for the nomination and who is not. that is obviously ba...

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