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those kind of reforms the. the president himself talking there, saying, i did push. reporter: right. he more often than not pushed in private. sort of like we saw when the chinese president was here for a state visit at the white house. in public, very warm words and in private the u.s. says that s where they push because that s how diplomacy tends to work. but i ve been on plenty of trip was president obama as well as with president bush, the former president, to egypt where, in public, the u.s. presidents mostly have very, very warm words for hosni mubarak. in private, they may be tougher. but when you ask that question about whether or not the u.s. has pushed for those reforms enough, certainly not in public. i can tell you that i was in cairo with president obama when he gave that dramatic speech to the muslim world and he was fairly gentle with president mubarak there because obviously president mubarak was his host and that tends to be not what you do in public. certainly the u

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