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Know, we had a bond. he had an outgoing personality, he had a crazy little grin. you always knew when he was doing something mischevious. >> and tim recalls the mischief they both got into in the small michelin town called cadillac. >> we will go play in the creeks, go fishing. we actually build a rough out of old barrels that we threw in the water and tied sticks to it, never floated -- >> sounds like huckleberry finn. >> yeah. >> but vinces childhood story wasnt always so ideal like. >> vince ...

Brother to? vince >> yeah. was him it was like, i dont know, we had a bond. he had an outgoing personality, he had a crazy little grin. you always knew when he was doing something mischevious. >> and tim recalls the mischief they both got into in the small michelin town called cadillac. >> we will go play in the creeks, go fishing. we actually build a rough out of old barrels that we threw in the water and tied sticks to it, never floated -- >> sounds like huckleberry fun. >> yeah. >> but vince ...