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And i believe like trump believes, we want the immigrants here but we want them to do it legally. >> there is enthusiasm on both sides. i think when you look at whats happening with the caravan and with justice kavanaugh the way he was treated, ill tell you, my moms an 86-year-old democrat from pennsylvania. she just changed parties to republican this year. i never -- >> because of kavanaugh. >> because of kavanaugh. >> i know you encountered the kavanaugh talk on the trail. its the mistreatment...