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Them. also one of the questions i keep on asking myself and not asking others and not getting answero an answer to, these migs have been modernized that the pols have significantly. different avianices, upgraded. a question whether ukrainians can fly them and have technical training ability to do that. >> whether or not airports that have been bombed out. a lot of jets need quite a long run space. trying to take off from airports bombed out strategically by the russian military a problem as well...