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Quietly and i wouldnt have to come on the show. >> what is the defense then? youre offering youre a character defense -- whats. >> the defense is he didnt do it. he participated as a staff member on a traffic city. as far as i can read from the papers im getting as much information as you are. im not a lawyer and him and i havent talked about the details of the case. we have an excerpt from a memo here and there. we all know ambitious prosecutors have to come down with indictments. >> that sound...