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Ended. its the fact that it went on for 20 years without a strategy to produce success. and yet, constantly representing by our political and military leaders that everything was working out great. and then this accompanied by an unnecessary war in iraq that is also proved to be very costly. >> ambassador -- >> so when -- the stain is not just on how this ended. or even primarily on how its ended. its how it was conducted and again, the parallel war that took place in iraq. >> ambassador, gratef...