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Because theyn think about it. they had one goal, which was a pretty big goal, which was to defeat the soviet empire, and they succeeded and in the process they werent willing to be diverted to what they would have called secondary issue when you look at the worldwide scale of the cold war. i think theres no question that you had a continued american effort to end apartheid. there were arguments -- >> they werent pro-apartheid. they were just against sanctions. >> they were against sanctions. at ...