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Poles want to seem to have it just one way go ahead alex well the poles have their own interpretation of the of the model of soft ribbentrop the russians there is theres also what people like Jeffrey Roberts do which is that you go through history and you decide what you you have im not saying holds a nazi titles to their own interpretation of the modern talk ribbentrop that my own personal view is that given the situation which existed in all his 939 a pact between so and germany was probably something that many people in moscow would have decided maint sense to them yeah they failed to forge an alliance with the west right they failed to fortunately once with poland they tried a pact which limited as they were. Seen it german expansion eastward would have made sense to there the problem is not that there are these divergent opinions about this event it is that in the west increasingly not talking about the historic story and talking about medium and talking about politics. We are not
Alliance with the west they tried they failed to fortune the lines with poland they tried a pact which limited as they would seen it german expansion eastward would have made sense to there the problem is not that there are these divergent opinions about this event it is that in the west increasingly not talking about the historic story and talking about medium and talking about politics. We are not only hearing only one view of the maldives of ribbentrop pact each is becoming increasingly the all to dos view which everybody who wishes to be considered respectable and accepted is required increasingly to accept and that i think is dangerous thing because it distorts very badly our understanding of the events let you know not all and it also means that the last of us who were the principle country then suffered the raters losses during that war on and on in effect the disallowed from having an opinion about its own region yes particularly demons since that was the red army that liberate
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Crossed allegan to be curious he is a writer on Legal Affairs as well as editor in chief of the duran dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate jeffrey let me go to you 1st your center of visiting moscow and you are in the steamed historian of the 2nd world war and of the soviet union why is it contested the beginnings of the 2nd world war because most the time its about the outcome of the 2nd world war but we had to stay. In warsaw the russians were not invited the germans were why is that still controversial well the idea front of us for the. Boys of course a massive amount of us were you know 2nd world war 5060000000 people died. Reshaped completely the 20th century well were still living with the consequences of shadow so it is one of the most important of all historical. Its political civil its always been its always be political its always been a matter of not to see sturrock of contestation about wha