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The books in other states. whether it should apply -- and the compromise -- i need to push ahead for one second. the compromise pence is proposing would effectively probably take off the table the claim that a business owner could make, it wouldnt protect a gay or lesbian couple from discrimination more generally in parts of indiana that dont have human rights ordinances because indiana doesnt have a law statewide against discrimination against gays and lesbians. discrimination against them was ...

In other words, for all those republicans saying no to working with the president, where is the political downside? where is the incentive to change their ways and start compromising. it raises a serious broader question, if hyper polarization is the new reality, whats the point of being president. look at everything that goes into running for the job, everything that comes from being in the job, all the grief, all the hassle. is it worth it? >> let me ask you the final question, do you enjoy co...