It appears mr. smith is focused on the trump campaign, his lawyers who were executing the plan, not the electors themselves. that s one of the key distinctions between the federal and state investigations. can you tell anything, i was very surprised in your reporting today, very interested that you described new subpoenas, new raft of subpoenas going out on the electors issue, even now. is there anything different that you can tell from what you know about the new subpoenas compared to with earlier parts of the investigation in terms of how it s evolving? unfortunately not. we don t know very much at all. what we do know is in the states, the focus has also included an examination of the electors themselves. we know, for instance, that in georgia, at least three of the electors who voted on december 14th, 2020, for donald trump and sort of presented themselves as
Preserve their legal recourse should any of their lawsuits prevail in court in the various states where they were contesting the results. what jack smith is alleging in this indictment is that people, including rudy giuliani, new along that they were planning to use these elector certificates to attempt to obstruct proceedings on january 6th, 2021. that is pretty remarkable. to your question, or that differs from what we think what is happening in some of the states, and what we think is going to continue happening in georgia, potentially, next week, in new mexico, potentially in wisconsin, where governor tony evers called for investigation into the electors, there was a focus more on the electors themselves. it appears that mr. smith is focused on the trump campaign official lawyers who were executing this plan, not the electors themselves. that is one of the key distinctions that we see so far between the federal and state investigations. federa l and stat in can you tell anything
Are really detailed here with respect to what they did in different states. for instance, in arizona, it seems very hard to imagine there wouldn t be state investigations based on these allegations. so a whole variety of different schemes and obviously the one we know the most about is georgia because of the fact that brad raffensperger has a tape-recording of the president s comments, not just asking him to find one more vote that is needed to win, but also when raffensperger refuses and says, there s no fraud here, the president let s just say he politely but not very subtly suggests he could be subject to criminal prosecution if he doesn t go along with the scheme. so quite an array of charges with respect to this aspect of the scheme.
And that s where the crime occurred, and that s what jack smith is going to be pulling out. which is why you see him taking steps and going out to these other jurisdictions to try to firmly make that point clear, with what i suspect will be another indictment against the former president. all of these states that trump tried to pressure into overturning the election in, like georgia or arizona apparently, are now in the big picture and there is no doubt that this obviously adds more legal trouble for him in this investigation, or perhaps even again on state investigations down the road. how does trump spin this? are we going to even seemingly lose any republican support in these states as a result? well, we saw so far with these indictments, what we ve seen is that he s done better because of them. you remember the alvin bragg indictment in new york, that was actually the worst politically for on desantis. that actually helped trump in the polls, and it gave him a bounce. and the f
To try to overturn the results of an election, especially if you have reason to believe, or should have known that, you actually lost the election. so what i glean from everything that is going on with jack smith and his pursuit is that he is trying to get as much evidence as possible that will firmly establish that trump in fact knew he lost, or should have known he lost, and should have known there was not the widespread fraud he continued to pedal in terms of a narrative to the american public. and yet he still did everything that he did anyway. and that s where the crime occurred, and that s what jack smith is going to be laying out. which is why you see him taking these steps and going out to these other jurisdictions, trying to formally make that point clear, with what i suspect will be another indictment against former president. molly, all these states that trump tried to pressure into overturning the election in, like georgia, or arizona apparently, are now in the big pictur